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From "Volker Weber" <v.we...@inexso.de>
Subject Re: [result][vote] start up the MyFaces Commons project
Date Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:33:42 GMT
Hi,

i don't understand what should go into the utils and what into the
components parts.

I think we can mix static utils with renderkid independent components
in one library.

for renderkid dependend compeonents we have already tomahawk, tobago
and trinidad.


Regards,
    Volker

2007/10/31, Manfred Geiler <manfred.geiler@gmail.com>:
> Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new project
> and what not:
> Renderkit independent components yes/no? Only static utils, convenient base
> classes?
>
> I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well):
>
> Let's start a new MLP* called "MyFaces JSF Commons"
> which is itself an "umbrella" project for two artifacts** called
> "MyFaces JSF Commons Utils" and "MyFaces JSF Commons Components"
>
> For the artifact names I propose:
> "myfaces-jsfcommons-utils" and "myfaces-jsfcommons-components"
>
> The myfaces-jsfcommons-components artifact would have a compile dependency
> to myfaces-jsfcommons-utils.
>
> WDYT?
>
> --Manfred
>
>
> * Myfaces Level Project ;-)
> ** We should not use the Apache Commons terminology and call those artifacts
> or sub projects "Components" for obvious reasons  ;-)
>
>
>
> On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > True!
> >
> > ...and also the name "common" is very common... :-)
> > And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ...
> >
> >
> > -M
> >
> > On 10/31/07, Volker Weber < v.weber@inexso.de > wrote:
> > > It is  a apache commons like project, just not located in
> commons.apache.org.
> > > If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a
> > > myfaces project.
> > >
> > > And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like
> > > apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java
> > > users.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >     Volker
> > >
> > > 2007/10/30, Ron Smits <ron@ronsmits.org>:
> > > > Grins, I so do not want to start a 'poco sensitive' discussion. But I
> agree
> > > > with several other writers here, that commons sounds too much like the
> > > > apache commons project
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > >  On 10/30/07, Manfred Geiler < manfred.geiler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Oh no! Not that discussion again...  :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron, you might not be aware of former discussions on this list -
not
> > > > > your fault of course.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, there are many ASF projects which have names related to Native
> > > > > Americans, BUT there are also many people concerned that those names
> > > > > could be offensive to Native Americans.
> > > > >
> > > > > And MyFaces is - of course - not the only ASF project where such
> > > > > discussions took place: see [1] to get an idea about such
> discussions
> > > > > in the Geronimo community.
> > > > > BTW, did you know they once had "Tomahawk" in their list of suggest
> > > > > alternatives?  ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is
> > > > > +/-0 for names related to Native Americans
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to sensitize.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Manfred
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSBOX/why-apache-geronimo.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/30/07, Ron Smits < ron@ronsmits.org> wrote:
> > > > > > How about Tsalagi? that is the name of the cherokee language
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/30/07, Mario Ivankovits < mario@ops.co.at> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > How about a new "ASF style" name instead of basic,
commons or
> > > > > > > > something else that could be more easily misconstrued?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you give an "ASF style" name for example?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > Mario
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > I reject your reality and substitute my own
> > > > > >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > I reject your reality and substitute my own
> > > >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>
>
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>
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> Development and Courses in English and
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>
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