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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:33:16 +0200
From: "Manfred Geiler" <manfred.geiler@gmail.com>
To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Jira for JSR-301
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You are right, but:
- many Jira-Keys of Apache sub projects do not correspond to their
"umbrella" project: TOMAHAWK, TRINIDAD, ...
- of course their could be another Apache project implementing JSR301,
but the same problem applies to the long name: if we name the sub
project "Apache JSF Portlet Bridge" a later implementation will have
the same problem finding a proper long name. Well, first come, first
serve... ;-)
- regarding the JSR456 thing: you are right that is a showstopper for
the key "JSR301"

Well, Jira seems down at the moment. AFAIK there is no way to change a
key after creation. But, I'm willing to create a new jira project and
discard the old one as soon as we find a really good key.

--Manfred


On 9/5/07, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's probably too late to do anything about it, but JSR301 seems like
> a poor name for a few reasons.   First, it's not obvious to which
> apache project the JSR301 issue key belongs, nor is it clear to the
> uniformed what JSR301 stands for.   It'd be the same as naming MyFaces
> JSR127.   Second, there's no reason why another apache project
> couldn't implement JSR301 as well, causing confusion.    Yes, there
> are apache projects that implement the same JSR, for example Cayenne
> and OpenJPA.   Third, what happens when down the road JSF Portlet
> Bridge 2.0 becomes JSR456?
>
>
> On 9/3/07, Manfred Geiler <manfred.geiler@irian.at> wrote:
> > done.
> >
> > Project: MyFaces Portlet Bridge
> > Key: JSR301
> > URL: http://myfaces.apache.org/jsr301/
> > Project Lead: Martin Marinschek
> > Notification Scheme: MyFaces notifications
> > Project Category: MyFaces
> >
> > Also added a component "General" and a version "1.0.0-SNAPSHOT".
> >
> > --Manfred
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/3/07, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Manfred,
> > >
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > take MyFaces Portlet Bridge!
> > >
> > > I wrongly assumed there could be more than one key, but hey, why would
> > > they say key to it then? - take JSR301
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 9/3/07, Manfred Geiler <manfred.geiler@irian.at> wrote:
> > > > "yes to all suggestions" is funny.
> > > > I cannot name the project both "MyFaces JSR-301" AND "MyFaces Portlet
> > > > Bridge" and give it the key "JSR301" AND "PBRIDGE".
> > > >
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --Manfred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/3/07, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Manfred,
> > > > >
> > > > > yes to all suggestions - you can put me as a project lead for now,
> > > > > we'll reevaluate later (obviously, the EG lead Michael Freedman will
> > > > > be a good project lead when he joins the team).
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/3/07, Manfred Geiler <manfred.geiler@irian.at> wrote:
> > > > > > Should be able to add a new jira project myself.
> > > > > > What I need first:
> > > > > > - name: "MyFaces JSR-301" sounds very technical :(  Is "MyFaces
> > > > > > Portlet Bridge" ok?
> > > > > > - key: "JSR301", "PBRIDGE", ...?
> > > > > > - url: http://myfaces.apache.org/jsr301/  ?
> > > > > > - a project lead ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Manfred
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/3/07, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > filing an issue against infra is correct.
> > > > > > > Manfred should be able to do that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/3/07, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Stan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > as this new portlet bridge will not be lumped in to the
> > > > > > > > MyFaces-implementation, this should rather be a new project, just like
> > > > > > > > Orchestra and RCF.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mario, Matthias, Manfred - requesting a new subproject in jira =
> > > > > > > > request on infrastructure, right?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Stan Silvert <ssilvert@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I'm starting to look at the code Scott posted for JSR-301.  I'd like to
> > > > > > > > > go ahead and start logging issues that can be quickly cleared up as soon
> > > > > > > > > as the code is committed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can we go ahead and add a "JSR-301" component to jira?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We already have a "Portlet_Support" component, but that is for the old
> > > > > > > > > bridge.  I think it would be a good idea to add "JSR-301" so we don't
> > > > > > > > > get them mixed up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Stan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > further stuff:
> > > > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
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