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From "Mike Kienenberger" <mkien...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?
Date Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:50:38 GMT
One other thing to note is that the sun 1.1 dtd file is included
verbatim as part of the JSF spec.

See 10.3.3 Application Configuration Resource Format


On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> For this particular file set, the person to answer would be Martin
> Marinschek as he committed the license and the files.
>
> On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger <mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lance,
> >
> > I think you can safely delete these files without impacting your
> > application (although your app may go out to the internet and attempt
> > to resolve the dtd reference if the files are not available locally).
> >
> > I do see a license file located in the following location which does
> > appear to grant redistribution.   This should cover the proprietary
> > issue since it's being used according to the license terms.
> >
> > META-INF/licenses/sundtd-LICENSE.txt
> >
> > These files cannot be considered "confidential" as they are
> > deliberately published for public use at the following URLs:
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd
> > http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/2/07, Lance Bader <ldbader@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am disturbed by the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd
> > > files included in myfaces-impl-1.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar. The prolog in both files
> > > says
> > >
> > > <!--
> > >  Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > >  SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
> > > -->
> > >
> > > I'm willing to believe that a Sun developer forgot to clean up the prologs
> > > when these DTD files were released, but I don't want to lose my job because
> > > I have distributed restricted SUN property.
> > >
> > > I have done some homework.  The subject files are available from the Sun
> > > Developers Site at http://java.sun.com/dtd/ where Sun declares that "Unless
> > > otherwise licensed, code in all technical manuals herein (including
> > > articles, FAQs, samples) is provided under this License." and "this License"
> > > links to the same Sun License included in myfaces-impl-1.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar.
> > > The problem is that this blanket statement does not apply to something
> > > declared proprietary/confidential; something declared
> > > proprietary/confidential is "otherwise licensed" and cannot be distributed.
> > >
> > > Can someone show me evidence that Sun permits these files to be distributed?
> > >  Maybe there is a special agreement with the Apache Software Foundation that
> > > can be referenced.
> > >
> > > Are these files just included as a convenience?  What would break if I just
> > > removed them from the JAR?
> > >
> > > It's not a perfect world,
> > >
> > > Lance
> > >
> >
>

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