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From "Matthias Wessendorf" <mat...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Re: Trinidad, Tomahawk, Tobago, and RCF [Was: [Proposal] RCF, a rich component library for JSF]
Date Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:52:28 GMT
-1 on two TLPs

IMO there shouldn't a release of any comp. lib, working only w/ one IMPL

Perhaps Tomahawk is to much depending on MyFaces (shared).
Trinidad works w/ both. For Tomahawk² we should change the strategy,
and use Trin. as the *core* / base ...

-M

On 3/16/07, Zubin Wadia <zwadia@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like two different TLPs:
>
> 1. MyFaces Implementation (keeps progressing with the specification's
> maturity).
>
> 2. JSF Component Libraries (whatever their names will be in the future)
> which work with Sun & MyFaces Implementations. Not one. But both. If they
> only work with MyFaces then there is no need for another TLP.
>
> Just like Tomahawk components need to adhere to certain requirements prior
> to coming out of the sandbox - a "promotion criteria" should be developed
> for components under this TLP.
>
> I think it will allow the developer community to channel their open source
> energies better and lead to more commits.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Zubin.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/16/07, Barbalace, Richard <RBARBALACE@partners.org> wrote:
> > As someone who mostly just lurks on the dev list, I did want to comment on
> > Werner's post.  I would be very interested in component programming, and I
> have
> > a fair number of ideas for what I think would make useful and interesting
> > components.  (Wouldn't it be nice to have a Google Maps component, for
> > instance?)
> >
> > But trying to figure out even how to get started is frustrating.  There
> are all
> > these different projects, with seemingly different purposes, with
> scattered or
> > poor documentation, and with no single place for getting a top-down
> overview.
> > Having a nice, clear taxonomy of all the projects and their relationships
> would
> > be a helpful start, but it would be so much better if there were better
> > integration.  I personally would be unlikely to start developing
> components
> > until that is achieved.
> >
> > Richard J. Barbalace
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Werner Punz [mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:48 AM
> > > To: dev@myfaces.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Trinidad, Tomahawk, Tobago, and RCF [Was:
> > > [Proposal] RCF, a rich component library for JSF]
> > >
> > > .....
> > > Getting people into component programming is hard, the api is
> > > unnecessarily complicated and overloaded with glue code, a
> > > common base,
> > > could ease tool development as well (we need well documented codegens
> > > and uis for helping people to kickstart it).
> > >
> > > one third is inherent incompatibility problems
> > >
> > > and one third is questions
> > >
> > >
> > > And the first question you geht, why so many components in the sets
> > > double...
> > >
> > > And then we have Tobago, an excellent framework which feels like being
> > > one big block designed for coherency and it has also problems working
> > > together with the rest.
> > >
> > > I think it is long overdue to get a good corebase here and more
> > > coherency, since there has to be done some overhaul for jsf
> > > 1.2, why not
> > > in a proper and decent manner.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Matthias Wessendorf
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