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From "Matthias Wessendorf" <mat...@apache.org>
Subject Re: spring conversation start (@manfred)
Date Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:47:41 GMT
> Just out of curiousity, where did they add "it"?  I don't see any reference
> to updateActionListener in 1.2.

it is named setPropertyActionListener in the spec and in trinidad
setActinListener

-M

> By the way, is this similar to (or identical to) your idea for a preupdate()
> method in Shale's ViewController (SHALE-338)?  If so, I still like the idea
> ...  just need to see the follow through :-).
>
> Craig
>
> > Just my $0.02
> >
> > -M
> >
> > On 12/20/06, Werner Punz < werpu@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Craig McClanahan schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > One of the architectural approaches that MyFaces developers seem to do
> > > > pretty often, even when they don't have to, is think of everything as
> > > > needing a component.  To me, this involves the person building the
> view
> > > > in decisions that really belong to the person working on the business
> > > > logic.  Yes, it's often the same person, but where is the separation
> of
> > > > concerns?
> > > >
> > > That was indeed the concerns of the original scope tag
> > > (I am using it currently btw. it is excellent work)
> > > the original intent was to have a viable replacement for savestate
> > > which would allow quick and dirty scoping with a
> > > a visual/tag approach.
> > >
> > > Mario did this approach and he solved it in an excellent way
> > > and yes, there is a break in separation of concerns and it was
> > > intended by design to ease the development of small applications,
> > >
> > > you basically push the scope control and parts of the transaction
> > > handling into the visual part.
> > >
> > > But the idea was to have a tag like way for those things, and if you
> > > need it differently (which many apps do but many small ones dont)
> > > have other frameworks deal with it.
> > >
> > > Now Mario, now he is moving into the Spring domain with his stuff, seems
> > > to be covering, let other frameworks do the scope control approach,
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > Btw. The scope tag of Mario is really excellent you should give it a
> > > try, but I agree, separation of concerns is not really there and cannot
> > > be by design principle, but there are other frameworks and solutions
> > > to deal with this.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh

further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

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