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From "Matthias Wessendorf" <>
Subject Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome
Date Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:40:05 GMT
I am really fine with adding this NH_Impl to Tomahawk.
Here are my rules for that:
-It is not used by default!
-it is not configured to a bogus web.xml context param
-it should be used in the app's faces-cfg.xml file

the cons and pros are like
"Do you like Rails, or not" :)

Well, somethimes that makes sense; sometimes not.

The fun is, that you can choose! Just put it to your faces-cfg.
I have heard that "requirement" before that thread. I don't think it's
a not understanding
JSF thing. Sorta lazy guy approach ...


On 10/30/06, Craig McClanahan <> wrote:
> On 10/30/06, Mario Ivankovits <> wrote:
> > In reality there is a dependency between two pages, there is a "silent"
> > contract how to prepare the managed beans so that the destination page
> > knows what to display (and I think the f:param stuff is useless here).
> > So more often than not you'll use a updateActionListener to set stuff on
> > the destination backing bean. And voilla, you'll have hard dependency
> > between these two pages.
> This is an important point, no matter how you architect your navigation.
> <shameless-plug>
> That is why Shale's view controller has a prerender() method ... you are
> encouraged to use that method in the "destination" page to pull data that
> this page needs out of the model, rather than having the "origin" page push
> data into the destination page (or some request scoped objects whose names
> are known to both).  That way, coupling is minimized to something like
> passing primary keys -- and I like the convention of always passing, say, a
> customerId, in the same place throughout the application (independent of
> particular pages), to minimize direct coupling between any two particular
> pages.
> This approach also makes it *much* easier for your application to support
> bookmarkable GET URLs that pass primary keys with request parameters.
> </shameless-plug>
> Craig

Matthias Wessendorf

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mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

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