Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56630 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2005 07:50:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 2005 07:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20489 invoked by uid 500); 4 Dec 2005 07:50:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-myfaces-dev-archive@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 19396 invoked by uid 500); 4 Dec 2005 07:50:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@myfaces.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "MyFaces Development" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@myfaces.apache.org Received: (qmail 19199 invoked by uid 99); 4 Dec 2005 07:50:29 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:50:29 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [217.160.230.41] (HELO mout.perfora.net) (217.160.230.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:50:13 -0800 Received: from [24.163.167.196] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1Eiod51Y5j-0006Qf; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <43929FA4.8040506@hookom.net> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:49:56 -0600 From: Jacob Hookom User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Faces Freeway References: <4391F353.9010703@ops.co.at> <43921F64.6020501@hookom.net> <43929AB9.8000407@ops.co.at> In-Reply-To: <43929AB9.8000407@ops.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: perfora.net abuse@perfora.net login:38996d6b4507362014e15e1650404613 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mario, If you can standardize on the EJB3 spec, then you can piggy back on JBoss Seam for TX management and state management while concentrating on useful UI components-- I've debated this a bit, but JBoss is taking the route of code generation at this point for rails-ish support, but I would like to see dynamic UIComponents such as the ones you are pitching that can work off of reading EJB3 meta data types. -- Jacob Mario Ivankovits wrote: > Hi Jacob! > >> Have you looked at JBoss Seam? As soon as you start dipping into >> Persistence and JSF, then Seam already has a lot of the coordination >> completed via Annotations. I do see some really good ideas around >> components in the UI, something that I've wanted in the JSF spec >> actually for a while. > > I know JBoss Seam, and there is much value in JBoss Seam, but it does > nothing to present the data to the user, its just a thin layer between > JSF and Hibernate(EntityManager) to get rid of all those > DetachedObject/DuplicateObject Exceptions (you know what I mean?). > This has been done by allow an easy way to use the > session-per-application-transaction pattern. > > So Seam is great stuff, but wont help much here. > > --- > Mario > > -- Jacob Hookom - Minneapolis -------------------------- http://hookom.blogspot.com