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From Martin Marinschek <martin.marinsc...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Demo for AJAX faces componets
Date Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:09:24 GMT
you said that the prototype library didn't work for you in firefox - for me, 
it certainly did...

regards,

Martin

On 8/10/05, Alexandr J. Smirnov <sau@demi.spb.ru> wrote:
> 
> Big thanks for link. I fully agree about self-designed code, but -
> I see too many information about using httprequest objects in infernet, 
> but
> found only modifications of 3-4 samles, not full frameworks with wide 
> range
> of tested clients. Even commercial products, such as ICEFaces project, 
> don't
> support full range of clients - for example, ICEFaces don't work with
> firefox 1.06, my favorite browser, and MS IE in My configuration, google
> products don't work with My pocketPc , JS Library used in sundbox ajax
> components don't work wit My configuration of MS IE ( support of ActiveX
> enabled for local intranet only ) etc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:martinc@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:06 PM
> > To: MyFaces Development
> > Subject: Re: Demo for AJAX faces componets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, ir. ing. Jan Dockx wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, Alexander, on Safari, Mac OS X, it doesn't do didly.
> > > After a minute, I get a dialog that says "Reqest error, status
> > : 504Message:
> > > Gateway timeout".
> >
> > This is exactly why I keep trying to encourage people to stop writing
> > their own custom AJAX comm layer and build on top of something that's
> > already well tested and robust. ;-) For example, Dojo:
> >
> > http://www.dojotoolkit.org/
> >
> > If you pick just the IO profile, you'll have a lightweight and
> > robust comm
> > layer to build your apps on. (I'm not saying Dojo is the only
> > robust layer
> > around, but there are far more flaky ones than robust ones. ;)
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> > > On 5 Aug 2005, at 15:53, Enrique Medina wrote:
> > >
> > >> Great example using an AJAX-enabled dataTable. This can be
> > really helpfull!
> > >> I think that Martin's students are also working on something 
> similar...
> > >>
> > >> Alexander, could you please post some reviews about your
> > examples, I mean,
> > >> some kind of explanation of how is it done? Or better a wiki
> > in MyFaces?
> > >>
> > >> 2005/8/5, Alexandr J. Smirnov <sau@demi.spb.ru>:
> > >>> After any little problems,my demo/test application visible from
> > >>> internet.
> > >>> You can see it by :
> > >>> http://smirnov.org.ru/myfaces-ajax/ .
> > >>> At present, it was tested with Firefox 1.06, Microsoft IE
> > 6.0 and 5.0 (
> > >>> from default install of Windows 2000 ) and Opera 8.02
> > >>> I will be very glad for report of success/failure test on
> > other browsers.
> > >>>
> > >>> My skills in JavaScript less then 1 month, but long time I
> > worked with
> > >>> java,
> > >>> c, c++ - as result,I was surprised many times by unexpected
> > work of any
> > >>> code...
> > >>> I don't have any problems for server side part, but need any help 
> for
> > >>> build
> > >>> client-side scripts... Most in creating portable code for different
> > >>> clients.
> > >>>
> > >>> ???
> > >>> Do you have a demo of this technology up and running?
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you start a discussion with code snippets on the mailing
> > list how you
> > >>> implemented that?
> > >>>
> > >>> How many changes would it take to get My Faces to use your approach?
> > >>>
> > >>> regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 8/2/05, Alexandr J. Smirnov <sau@demi.spb.ru> wrote:
> > >>> I have worked ( as alpha-alpha-alpha .. ) set of custom components

> for
> > >>> create AJAX-like user interfaces for Java Server Faces
> > Applications. Main
> > >>> idea - in faces lifecycle, ve have view tree on server side
> > and DOM tree
> > >>> in
> > >>> client browser ( at present, saving tree on client side don't
> > used ). For
> > >>> ajax request, client send all user input of current form ( as normal
> > >>> submit
> > >>> request ). Request phases work as usual, but on render responce 
> phase
> > >>> server
> > >>> send ONLY CHANGED parts of view ( i don't create full
> > compare, but send
> > >>> only
> > >>> fo pre-defined parts, or submitted form ). For this I created 
> special
> > >>> AjaxContainer component, wich render it's children ( or part
> > of children )
> > >>> components. List of clientId's for rendered components included in
> > >>> response
> > >>> for client-side part of framework.
> > >>> For other cases ( for example, such will work in-page Jabber client)
> > >>> component can render updated xml in custom Listener, and set
> > >>> responseCompleteto FacesContext.
> > >>>
> > >>> On client side, JavaScript get list of rendered parts and
> > update page DOM
> > >>> Tree.
> > >>> In result, we have two-way communications between client
> > browser and JSF
> > >>> view, and have sync tree's on client and server side. It's work like
> > >>> common
> > >>> desctop applications.
> > >>> Such arch don't need create special RenderKit or change most of
> > >>> components - for example, at present, I have only custom
> > tag's-renderers
> > >>> for
> > >>> UICommand ( link & Button ) components, and have worked all
> > standart and
> > >>> most of custom ( tree2 and any other Myfaces components ) as
> > AJAX ... On
> > >>> other hand, custom renderersbased on usual Html renderers,
> > and work also
> > >>> in non-JavaScript environment as simple html...
> > >>>
> > >>> For client side script use XMLHttpRequest object, and, if it
> > don't exist,
> > >>> special "JavaScript"HttpRequest. It's worked same as XMLHttpRequest

> (
> > >>> designed with same properies and methods ), but use other idea. For
> > >>> perform
> > >>> request, It appended to page <script> tag. Browser load
> > script ( url maked
> > >>> from form action url with query string as normal GET request
> > ), but script
> > >>> produced by special Filter on server from Html code of JSF
> > Response - as
> > >>> pseudo-Dom tree of objects. Loaded script call handler
> > function for update
> > >>> page - same as XMLHttpRequest. Not need any iframe or other
> > incompatible
> > >>> technologies for non XMLHttpRequest browsers.
> > >>> It can work in wide range of browsers, even in 4+ IE & Netscape???
> > >>> ( in theory. At present tested with Mozilla Firefox and IE
> > 5.5+ browsers.
> > >>> I
> > >>> need help for make JavaScript compatible with others. )
> > >>> At present, XMLHttpRequest work only in Mozilla. Code for MS
> > ActiveX was
> > >>> disabled since I don't can get any functionality of XML part
> > for microsoft
> > >>> object ! Xml parsed withowt errors. ( For xml request, i use
> > in servlet
> > >>> Filter nekkohtml parser, and make valid xml, with all declarations

> and
> > >>> mime-type headers ). It make responseXML Tree, but any methods for
> > >>> navigate/manipulate don't worked ! Also, elements from
> > responseXML can't
> > >>> be
> > >>> inserted to page, don't produce event handlers etc.
> > >>> Current view of code repository -
> > >>> http://svn.demi.spb.ru/repository/myfaces-ajax/ Project created in
> > >>> Eclipse.
> > >>> Sorry for possible mistakes - my native language is Russian.
> > >>> ========================================
> > >>> Alexander J. Smirnov
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Met vriendelijke groeten,
> > >
> > > Jan Dockx
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