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Hi,

as for the location for our meeting at the JavaOne: does anybody know
which beer-garden of the ones mentioned in the list down below would
be the nicer one for our meeting?

regards,

Martin


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From: Jochen Kuhnle <lists@kuhnle.net>
Subject: [OT] Top 10 things to do in Stuttgart
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:16:46 GMT
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Hi,

for everyone going there, here are a few suggestions, in no particular=3D20
order, and of course highly biased:

1. Visit the "Fernsehturm" (TV-Tower): Touristy, but nice view.

   http://www.fernsehturm-stuttgart.de/index=3D5Fen.html

2. Eat suabian food at the "Stuttgarter St=3DE4ffele": Slightly expensive b=
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good, book ahead.

   http://www.staeffele.de/

3. Have a "Mass" (1 Litre of Beer) at the "Biergarten im Schlossgarten":=3D=
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This is where the crowd is when the weather's good.

   http://www.biergarten-schlossgarten.de/

4. Have another "Mass" at the "Karlsh=3DF6he": Very nice view over western=
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Stuttgart, nice to walk up there.

   http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/stn/page/detail.php/16710

5. Take a bike through Killesberg Park, Rosenstein Park and Schlossgarten=
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back to the city centre. You have to push the bike through Killesberg Park =
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(no cycling there), but afterwards its a nice downhill ride to Rosenstein. =
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There is also a nice "Biergarten" between Killesberg and Rosenstein Park=3D=
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near Pragsattel where you might have yet another "Mass". Takes 1.5 hours.

   http://www.killesberg-stuttgart.de/
   http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/16660
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6. Go to the beach at "Sky beach". Trendy "beach" bar on top of a parking=
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garage, volleyball field included (though you have to go down 5 storeys if =
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you kick the ball over the side ;).

   http://www.skybeach.de/

7. Visit "St=3DE4dtisches Lapidarium": A bit of old Stuttgart -- garden wit=
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parts (portals, colums, etc.) of old buildings.

   http://www.stuttgart-tourist.de/deutsch/stuttgart/sehen/lapidarium.html

8. Visit Weissenhof-Siedlung: If you like Bauhaus architecture...
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   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus

9. Visit Wilhelma: Botanical garden & zoo, one of the nicest. You need=3D20
time to do this.

   http://www.wilhelma.de/

10. Mercedes Benz and Porsche museums: For the car buffs. I think both=3D20
companies are building new ones right now, so call ahead and ask if=3D20
they're open.

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http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mbcom/international/international=3D5Fwebsite/=
en=3D
/com/international=3D5Fhome/home/services/meetus/museum.html
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http://content2.eu.porsche.com/prod/service/classic.nsf/usaenglish/worldmus=
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Have fun!

Regards,
Jochen