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From Sean Schofield <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Two tree controls
Date Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:54:26 GMT

I think you misunderstood the nature of the vote.  I was just asking
for a vote on whether we should have two components not which
component is better.  You yourself suggested that this might be the
best alternative if you thought we couldn't resolve the differences. 
I'm just asking for a vote so I know how to go forward.  Its not

What do you suggest we do then?


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:44:14 +0100, Manfred Geiler <> wrote:
> Sean,
> Although I understand your agitation, I kindly ask you to sit back and
> cool down a little bit. Please do not abuse votings for personal
> reasons. I do not even get it out of your mail what you actually want to
> vote about:
> - vote, which tree is better?
> - vote, if we should have one or two tree components?
> - vote, who is the better developer? (sorry for sarcasm)
> As an PPMC member I veto against this voting. IMHO, it is counter
> productive because the most likely end of such a voting would be one of
> you two leaving our community, which is the worst for all of us.
> Although it is not an ideal situation, we can all live with two
> competing tree components for now.
> Democracy has it's limits. You said yourself: "Oliver and I have both
> put a lot of time into the respective tree controls". I do not want to
> tolerate a voting that asks the community who's component should be
> kicked out. This voting is a maybe-win situation for you, but it is a
> loose-loose situation for MyFaces, that's sure.
> Let fair competition act: What counts? Better documentation? Better
> examples? More features? I don't know. Time will show.
> Regards,
> Manfred
> Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > I propose a vote to end the tree vs tree2 controversey.  Since it
> > seems that Oliver and I have reached an impasse (to put it mildly), I
> > move that we have two tree controls: tree and tree2 and let the user
> > decide which is best for them.
> >
> > While I think it is unfortunate that we cannot agree on a single new
> > tree control together this is probably the best course of action for
> > the sake of the team.  So I'd like a vote on this so I can know for
> > sure how to go forward.
> >
> > I will start the voting ... +1 for me
> >
> > ps. I know we don't like voting but I think its important to have
> > voting for big decisions like this.  Oliver and I have both put a lot
> > of time into the respective tree controls so its only fair that we ask
> > the group for direction on how to proceed.
> >
> >

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