Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-myfaces-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 67548 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2004 00:49:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 2004 00:49:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 45312 invoked by uid 500); 30 Dec 2004 00:49:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-myfaces-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45260 invoked by uid 500); 30 Dec 2004 00:49:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact myfaces-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "MyFaces Development" Delivered-To: mailing list myfaces-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45244 invoked by uid 99); 30 Dec 2004 00:49:08 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail.wildehor.de (HELO mail.wildehor.de) (213.238.32.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:49:05 -0800 Received: from [213.238.32.130] (helo=server.wildehor.de) by mail.wildehor.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CjoSm-00077t-Ku for myfaces-dev@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:46:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <000a01c4ede3$dc78a630$6402a8c0@fumakilla> To: "MyFaces Development" Subject: RE: Shale for 2.x? (was Re: RoadMap) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: carsten@wildehor.de Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:46:57 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on nands/NandS(Release 6.5.1|January 28, 2004) at 12/30/2004 01:46:48 AM, Serialize complete at 12/30/2004 01:46:48 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00047D8DC1256F7A_=" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00047D8DC1256F7A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" What is the main pruposal of MyFaces? I see a: the need of an open source implementation of JSF and b: like the idea to implement 'extras' to give the open source implamantation a real meaning to use it *g* In my opinion shale and similar projects are trying to fill a gap for existing applications or programmers which have not the possibility to change to jsf completly. I developed a application for a company with realy many cooperations so struts ore jsf was no alternative for us because of branding problems and similars. I would realy like to see the focus of the MyFaces on the JSF implementation with performance and stability with the plus of realy needed or 'neat' components to higher the aceptance. Trying to assimilate the one or other project should be the third or further focus to get some attention for developers which have not the chance to decide which technology to use but giving them a plus for the decicionmaker. My opinion is definetly egoistic but i think it is the only chance to deliver extraordinary good code. (even better than sun's (sooorry lars *g* )). It that sense and do not flame me please Carsten Fregin P.S. This is my 11 beer with my investor so please are mercyfull with my bad english and typos *g* --=_alternative 00047D8DC1256F7A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
What is the main pruposal of MyFaces? I see
a: the need of an open source implementation of JSF and
b: like the idea to implement 'extras' to give the open source implamantation a real meaning to use it *g*

In my opinion shale and similar projects are trying to fill a gap for existing applications or programmers which have not the possibility to change to jsf completly. I developed a application for a company with realy many cooperations so struts ore jsf was no alternative for us because of branding problems and similars. I would realy like to see the focus of the MyFaces on the JSF implementation with performance and stability with the plus of realy needed or 'neat' components to higher the aceptance. Trying to assimilate the one or other project should be the third or further focus to get some attention for developers which have not the chance to decide which technology to use but giving them a plus for the decicionmaker. My opinion is definetly egoistic but i think it is the only chance to deliver extraordinary good code. (even better than sun's (sooorry lars *g* )).

It that sense and do not flame me please

Carsten Fregin

P.S.
This is my 11 beer with my investor so please are mercyfull with my bad english and typos *g*
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