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From Sheng Zha <zhash...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Ownership of discuss.mxnet.io
Date Fri, 12 Jun 2020 22:24:01 GMT
> Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the
> possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about the
> complexity of hosting Discourse)?

The website is currently a subscribed hosted service provided by discourse, donated by Amazon.
It is possible to host it ourselves but it would incur additional operational cost. In addition,
I'm not aware of a requirement to have it on ASF infrastructure, given that it's only for
answering user questions and we don't conduct official Apache MXNet businesses there.

> Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain (e.g.
> https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The
> existing domain could be a redirect.

I don't see a benefit of doing that, nor am I aware of a requirement for it.

> Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers and
> pmc members to be automatically authorized?

This sounds like a good idea though I'm not sure how to proceed. If someone knows how to proceed
I'm happy to help grant necessary access to it.

-sz


On 2020/06/12 22:07:47, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.abreu@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Sheng,
> 
> thanks for the quick response.
> 
> Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the
> possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about the
> complexity of hosting Discourse)?
> 
> Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain (e.g.
> https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The
> existing domain could be a redirect.
> 
> Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers and
> pmc members to be automatically authorized?
> 
> Best regards
> Marco
> 
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:24 PM Sheng Zha <zhasheng@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Marco,
> >
> > I'm an admin of that website along with a couple of other PPMC members.
> > This forum has been around for some time and has been helpful in connecting
> > users of mxnet to the developer community. I think it's in the best
> > interest of this community to consider this under PPMC control for better
> > discoverability under the mxnet domain name. I'm happy to grant you admin
> > access if you or any other PPMC members need it. If you feel otherwise,
> > feel free to propose how you suggest we proceed.
> >
> > -sz
> >
> > On 2020/06/12 21:07:28, Marco de Abreu <marcoabreu@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Due to a PR [1] I had a closer look at discuss.mxnet.io which is a
> > forum to
> > > discuss about MXNet. It's a very helpful platform and provides great
> > > assistance for the community.
> > >
> > > When I looked into the terms of services [2] though, I noticed that the
> > ASF
> > > and MXNet ppmc are mentioned as owners.
> > >
> > > From my understanding, that forum and the domain are not managed by the
> > ASF
> > > or the mxnet ppmc. Thus, that statement does not seem correct and is
> > rather
> > > a trademark infringement. My understanding is that the platform is
> > operated
> > > by a third party as a community service towards MXNet. Thus, I think it's
> > > important to properly express who's responsible for that platform.
> > >
> > > If somebody has any knowledge about the owner of that forum, I'd
> > appreciate
> > > if they could give them a heads up for this thread.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Marco
> > >
> > > [1]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/18553/files
> > > [2]: https://discuss.mxnet.io/tos
> > >
> >
> 

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