From dev-return-7640-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@mxnet.incubator.apache.org Sat May 30 10:49:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E1D2180638 for ; Sat, 30 May 2020 12:49:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 7145 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2020 10:49:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@mxnet.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7133 invoked by uid 99); 30 May 2020 10:49:56 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 May 2020 10:49:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id A654FC227C for ; Sat, 30 May 2020 10:49:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-ec2-va.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id voIZ4Bmj1Hzr for ; Sat, 30 May 2020 10:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.166.194; helo=mail-il1-f194.google.com; envelope-from=carinmeier@gmail.com; receiver= Received: from mail-il1-f194.google.com (mail-il1-f194.google.com [209.85.166.194]) by mx1-ec2-va.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-ec2-va.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 6B356BB8C9 for ; Sat, 30 May 2020 10:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-il1-f194.google.com with SMTP id v11so5009640ilh.1 for ; Sat, 30 May 2020 03:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mCSvY7o8UWbom9By5leEXgul/ccv/dIyeylKyOXkw+g=; b=UxOIY5OSjqYSb8T3f7076Nt5Np3abEdlyYrSEhKPhfxugMU1qCl1eJOIr4WcWtwA9G uqshWAI545NEQkk/zOQjFA2DXH7GPlw7YDOpD7eoKWXHIL2k2wEufe+0BkJzxNl2FLjr V7H5xD4hDi9x2xdnJdQqh0gHg+YIO66ImlnlJ22xQop6FyjbmRfK5RS27Q6e8ehE/caA r80LtjM5pyMeWutUl94oTNgHNM9/SsZxOssmA4gNyl9CN05zLpNCrWaC8k+EVEzxFZGp isxJ4ir1S+NRduPXN2eUq9rjp6MxFKsD4NoiFzun9Y4crnx6j6UlfD/5dCaiQ0n3hXax Qx7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mCSvY7o8UWbom9By5leEXgul/ccv/dIyeylKyOXkw+g=; b=KTQSHVmLnrzznJxu9CR2v2vzVFjSZ2YOxlzsN92otXJNQX8e4s2Lu4cam7q9kn/mES 2wHjVZMybrT4zJ7yPlJOuxELdIxizQuiUr8SEL6vhev9yvThzU58N+PKnCyXKWtAXkOU XkrN2IbB/rQrWxbVQqv4/AclH/Jz1CGwO53PpLlp1x8HYLvBbV+YcsMWj6BLiEADX/fb U4HMZUE+gho5SXFfQCvzm4xDYBQUZ88f20iFm4R3/YrasB4g9r0s5Qo+I70Y9QRN38sk gB4sijitMOoiYHxZISZQ0vX4vc6o+x2hD1HZUsxtFhytt0TBL6P5dSBJerQ8MoLR/+Cl iJnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533R106TW9uW+duqG2Ny2psRi/IylU6v6mSShuxKZPvTpMawtx87 SFYZMX5/1bpJJ9nOVCmiR0YReSGuR/vOMaJvoPrB9AX1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyExdWoeKP44ypDjoJs1FaUDpR3DygHgq/IbEwEH/mhZPOYmkfBOGXG/i53rFGrgHOLFnrRlCfKGMjbRYPoEVE= X-Received: by 2002:a92:8593:: with SMTP id f141mr7287472ilh.264.1590835786482; Sat, 30 May 2020 03:49:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <72532e1229ea3d61002cd8b4f83a40c310508af2.camel@amazon.com> <7d06b82512de3169f4e7a62b45b04aa21a97e468.camel@amazon.com> <0fcd1b44e087d1dc4fc31aaf9448945c00fcb709.camel@amazon.com> <33577e0feebb3ad6175d2a86b6d78c1e7e824f95.camel@amazon.com> <1ffc877cb2b7ac296b25a310a3f6bfd7baea2506.camel@amazon.com> In-Reply-To: From: Carin Meier Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 06:49:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts) To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f30bef05a6db512b" --000000000000f30bef05a6db512b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Zach, If you are willing and able to do that on behalf of Amazon, that would be great. -Carin On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 8:35 PM Zach Kimberg wrote: > If we replace the official CPU build, won't there still be new dependencies > so it is not even guaranteed to work depending on whether the user has the > dependencies (e.g. libgfortran) installed? I think there is also a > performance degradation if we remove mkl. > > But, we could still have a third-party build. I can try to redo the builds > and release it on behalf of Amazon. Those builds can contain the full > dependencies and supported environments (CPU, GPU, OSX) and are not > restricted to Apache's license policies. Users will only have to update > their dependency group IDs and they will get the same functionality as they > have now. > > As Apache, we will only officially support JVM by building from source. > Then, we just mention where to find the Amazon convenience builds while > clarifying that they are not official Apache builds. > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM Carin Meier wrote: > > > Thanks. I understand now. If all the current jars are not compliant, then > > they should be removed. > > I also don't like the idea of "replacing" a jar on maven with another > jar. > > It sounds like we can consider publishing cpu jars only going forward > for a > > new release. > > > > - Carin > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 1:32 PM Lausen, Leonard > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 12:15 -0400, Carin Meier wrote: > > > > > > > > Going forward - we with future releases, we can have all users build > > > their > > > > own packages, just for the existing ones that are compliant on maven. > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:14 PM Carin Meier > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Leonard, > > > > > > > > > > Is this #2 Option still on the table? > > > > > > > > > > 2) Ask the Infra team to delete all MXNet GPU releases on > > > > > > repository.apache.org and provide replacement releases without > > > > > libgfortran.so > > > > > > and other potentially Category-X files (I found libmkl_ml.so in > one > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > JARs..) > > > > > > > > > > It seems like it would be a better solution than deleting ALL of > > them, > > > if > > > > > the CPU ones are still valid and adhere to licensing. > > > > > At least, we would break fewer users. > > > > > > > > > > - Carin > > > > > > Yes, this is a valid option. Just to clarify, the existing CPU releases > > > don't > > > adhere to the ASF policy. But MXNet project could create new, compliant > > CPU > > > releases and upload them to repository.apache.org. Finding a way to do > > > this for > > > the existing 1.x releases would also establish a path forward to > continue > > > creating such JARs for upcoming releases. > > > > > > --000000000000f30bef05a6db512b--