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To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cfbb37059cd6cc29" --000000000000cfbb37059cd6cc29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not good user experience. I have heard of impacts to some users / projects. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:44 PM Skalicky, Sam wrote: > Also, it has been reported that pip wheel installation with latest pip > version 20.0.1 breaks installation of MXNet pip wheels which have py2.py3 > in the wheel name. This breaks all existing released versions. Work aroun= d > is to install the older version of pip "pip install pip=3D=3D19.3.1=E2=80= =9D. > > Sam > > > On Jan 21, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chung, Alex > wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Alex Chung > > Senior Product Manager | AWS AI > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: shiwen hu > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:26 PM > > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: MXNet 1.6 as last release with Python 2 support? > > > > +1 > > > > Lai Wei =E4=BA=8E2020=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8818=E6=97= =A5=E5=91=A8=E5=85=AD =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=882:51=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > > >> +1 > >> > >> > >> Best Regards > >> > >> Lai > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:39 AM Lin Yuan wrote: > >> > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:04 AM Xingjian SHI > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> +1. We should move to support Python>=3D3.5 only. > >>>> > >>>> Get Outlook for iOS > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: Lausen, Leonard > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 10:02:30 AM > >>>> To: dev@mxnet.apache.org > >>>> Subject: Re: MXNet 1.6 as last release with Python 2 support? > >>>> > >>>> If the lazy consensus passes, I believe the minimum Python version > >>>> supported > >>>> would be Python 3.5. > >>>> > >>>> Python 3.5 because it seems to be the minimum Python 3 version teste= d > >> by > >>>> our CI, > >>>> specifically in the jobs running on Ubuntu 16.04. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> Leonard > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 17:36 +0000, Lausen, Leonard wrote: > >>>>> Dear MXNet community, > >>>>> > >>>>> as effective January 1, 2020, no new bug reports, fixes, or changes > >>> will > >>>> be > >>>>> made > >>>>> to Python 2, and as MXNet 1.6 will be released after January 1, > >> 2020, I > >>>>> suggest > >>>>> to announce in the MXNet 1.6 release notes that MXNet 1.6 is the la= st > >>>> release > >>>>> supporting Python 2. > >>>>> > >>>>> We have previously reached consensus on announcing that Python 2 is > >>>> dropped in > >>>>> the next major release (ie. MXNet 2), however, given the delay in 1= .6 > >>>> release, > >>>>> the plan to release 1.7 in the future and that Python 2 is dead > >>> already I > >>>>> think > >>>>> we can revisit this assumption. > >>>>> > >>>>> Advantages are > >>>>> - Time savings for developers, as Python 3 standard library contain= s > >>> more > >>>>> features than Python 2, and it is more efficient to target only 1 > >>>> language > >>>>> (Python 3) instead of 2 languages (Python 2 & 3) > >>>>> - Simplification and cost savings for CI > >>>>> > >>>>> I thus suggest 72h lazy consensus for announcing dropping of Python= 2 > >>> as > >>>>> described above. If you disagree, please veto (send "-1") and we ca= n > >>>> continue > >>>>> supporting Python 2 in all 1.x releases as per previous consensus. > >> Note > >>>> that > >>>>> at > >>>>> the time of previous consensus, no 1.7 release was planned. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Leonard > >>>> > >>> > >> > > --000000000000cfbb37059cd6cc29--