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From "Lausen, Leonard" <lau...@amazon.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: MXNet 1.6 as last release with Python 2 support?
Date Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:38:57 GMT
pip 20 install issues will likely be fixed by upstream tomorrow: 
https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/7626#issuecomment-577860648

On Thu, 2020-01-23 at 15:13 -0800, Pedro Larroy wrote:
>  This is not good user experience. I have heard of impacts to some users /
> projects.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:44 PM Skalicky, Sam <sskalic@amazon.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> > Also, it has been reported that pip wheel installation with latest pip
> > version 20.0.1 breaks installation of MXNet pip wheels which have py2.py3
> > in the wheel name. This breaks all existing released versions. Work around
> > is to install the older version of pip "pip install pip==19.3.1”.
> > 
> > Sam
> > 
> > > On Jan 21, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chung, Alex <alchung@amazon.com.INVALID>
> > wrote:
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > Sincerely,
> > > 
> > > Alex Chung
> > > Senior Product Manager | AWS AI
> > > 
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: shiwen hu <yajiedesign@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:26 PM
> > > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: MXNet 1.6 as last release with Python 2 support?
> > > 
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > Lai Wei <royweilai@gmail.com> 于2020年1月18日周六 上午2:51写道:
> > > 
> > > > +1
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > 
> > > > Lai
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:39 AM Lin Yuan <apeforest@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > +1
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:04 AM Xingjian SHI <xshiab@connect.ust.hk>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > +1. We should move to support Python>=3.5 only.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Lausen, Leonard <lausen@amazon.com.INVALID>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 10:02:30 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@mxnet.apache.org <dev@mxnet.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: MXNet 1.6 as last release with Python 2 support?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If the lazy consensus passes, I believe the minimum Python version
> > > > > > supported
> > > > > > would be Python 3.5.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Python 3.5 because it seems to be the minimum Python 3 version
> > > > > > tested
> > > > by
> > > > > > our CI,
> > > > > > specifically in the jobs running on Ubuntu 16.04.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > Leonard
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 17:36 +0000, Lausen, Leonard wrote:
> > > > > > > Dear MXNet community,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > as effective January 1, 2020, no new bug reports, fixes,
or
> > > > > > > changes
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > to Python 2, and as MXNet 1.6 will be released after January
1,
> > > > 2020, I
> > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > to announce in the MXNet 1.6 release notes that MXNet 1.6
is the
> > > > > > > last
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > supporting Python 2.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We have previously reached consensus on announcing that
Python 2
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > dropped in
> > > > > > > the next major release (ie. MXNet 2), however, given the
delay in
> > > > > > > 1.6
> > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > the plan to release 1.7 in the future and that Python 2
is dead
> > > > > already I
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > we can revisit this assumption.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Advantages are
> > > > > > > - Time savings for developers, as Python 3 standard library
> > > > > > > contains
> > > > > more
> > > > > > >  features than Python 2, and it is more efficient to target
only 1
> > > > > > language
> > > > > > >  (Python 3) instead of 2 languages (Python 2 & 3)
> > > > > > > - Simplification and cost savings for CI
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I thus suggest 72h lazy consensus for announcing dropping
of
> > > > > > > Python 2
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > described above. If you disagree, please veto (send "-1")
and we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > supporting Python 2 in all 1.x releases as per previous
consensus.
> > > > Note
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > the time of previous consensus, no 1.7 release was planned.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > > Leonard
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