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From Way Barrios <waybarr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building
Date Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:06:59 GMT
Hi Patric,

I'm grad researcher from Robotics Institute at CMU, I use mxnet in my
research in video analysis, and your idea to fund the students/researchers
to present their works on the popular conference is really interesting.

Best

Wayner

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Zhao, Patric <patric.zhao@intel.com> wrote:

> Regarding the marketing, one example from the GTC, which is ongoing at San
> Jose, US now.
>
>
> https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p=
>
> There are total 850 sessions and I search the keyword of MXNet, Pytorch
> and Tensorflow.
> The session with MXNet is still very little though there are lots of very
> great features and advantages from MXNet.
>
> I suggest to encourage and fund the students/researchers to present their
> works on the popular conference.
> I know talking is easy but maybe the decision maker can allocate more
> resources for marketing.
>
>
> MXNet 7 times, about 0.8%
>
> https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=MXNet&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p=
>
> Pytorch 22 times, 2%
>
> https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=pytorch&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p=
>
> Tensorflow 46 times, 5%
>
> https://gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/search.ww#loadSearch-searchPhrase=tensorflow&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=dayTime&p=
>
> --Patric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lin Yuan [mailto:apeforest@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:15 AM
> > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building
> >
> > Zach,
> >
> > Thanks for joining in the mxnet project and your very thoughtful
> discussion.
> > We do have virtual hangout/meetups. Please refer to
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Meetups+and+Hangou
> > ts
> >
> > I also strongly agree with your 4). I think we should have a clear
> roadmap on
> > our wiki page and/or github repo.
> >
> > Again, welcome on board!
> >
> > Lin
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 7:33 AM Zhao, Patric <patric.zhao@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Very great points!
> > >
> > > +1 for 4) and 5)
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Zach Boldyga [mailto:zach@scalabull.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:33 AM
> > > > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building
> > > >
> > > > This is a great discussion, thanks for opening, Carin!
> > > >
> > > > As a newcomer to MXNet and Apache communities in general, I’ve been
> > > > considering what I can bring to the table here, and what importance
> > > > it
> > > would
> > > > have to me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not employed by large organizations, and communities like this
> > > > are perhaps the only way to be involved in projects of such a large
> > > > scale and importance. An opportunity to join this type of team
> > > > without the full commitment of employment is fantastic! I see
> > > > potential for this to be a
> > > form
> > > > of validation, a chance to meet others and build professional
> > > relationships,
> > > > and a vehicle to learn from some of the most well-educated people in
> > > > the industry.
> > > >
> > > > That said, here’s what I’ve noticed thus far:
> > > >
> > > > 1. There is a healthy amount of activity in Github Issues, and the
> > > committers
> > > > are doing a great job at allowing newcomers to jump in. I was able
> > > > to get started on my first ticket within 10 minutes of searching
> thru issues.
> > > >
> > > > 2. The dev mailing list is a great place to discuss all of the
> > > > nuances
> > > of the
> > > > project. I also like meeting people and it would be rewarding to get
> > > > to
> > > know
> > > > people in the community via Skype or in-person meetups! This doesn’t
> > > > have to be for everyone, and I don’t think it’s appropriate for Q&A,
> > > > but for
> > > some
> > > > people a social element purely for the sake of putting names with
> > > > faces
> > > can
> > > > be rewarding. I’m open to virtual meetups :)
> > > >
> > > > 3. My first commit was smooth. When approaching the second one, I’m
> > > > hitting some hiccups. For instance, I recently created a JIRA ticket
> > > based on a
> > > > Github Issue some users reported, and the ticket has been sitting
> > > > for a
> > > week
> > > > without any activity. Should I just dig in and open a PR? How do the
> > > > commiters decide what can and can’t reasonably go into the project?
> > > > We may be able to make some changes to the contribution
> > > > documentation or processes to make it easier for first time
> > > > contributors to ramp-up into
> > > regular
> > > > contributors?
> > > >
> > > > 4. I would love to see more discussion about the future of MXNet. I
> > > imagine
> > > > those who have been involved in the project for a long time have
> > > > thoughts about next major steps, but as an outsider I’m not sure
> > > > where to find
> > > this
> > > > information. The roadmap on Github is fairly short-term and
> > > > outdated, and lots of interesting ideas are sprouting in projects
> > > > like TF Swift as of
> > > 2019.
> > > >
> > > > 5. Something I’ve observed across many Apache projects: there isn’t
> > > > much focus on marketing. I wonder why? A tool like Tensorflow is
> > > > reaching 10x more people, mainly because of marketing.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Zach Boldyga
> > > > Scalabull  |  Founder
> > > > 1 (866) 846-8771 x 101
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Tianqi Chen
> > > > <tqchen@cs.washington.edu>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > what happens (also) happens in the mail-list.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is a certain things or person’s contribution is only
> > > > > known by colleagues, it is a indication of things that should be
> > > > > improved toward more apache way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tianqi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:42 AM Isabel Drost-Fromm
> > > > > <isabel@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:03:57PM -0800, Steffen Rochel wrote:
> > > > > > > I agree with Tianqi on "One approach toward building a
more
> > > > > > > diverse community is to acknowledge the fact that we want
to
> > > > > > > encourage
> > > > > > interactions
> > > > > > > in the Apache way beyond our physical cycle." However,
I
> > > > > > > disagree with
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > suggestion regarding "One principle to toward that is to
> > > > > > > encourage PMC members only nominate committers from other
> > > > > > > organizations" for the following reasons: [...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I spent quite some time digging remembering that a similar topic
> > > > > > had been discussed somewhere at the ASF at some point in time
> > > > > > with many whys, pros and cons towards contributor employer
> > > > > > diversity - finally found a long and winding thread there:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7a7412316ddbe1d43f5fb3d3703ea25
> > > > a6
> > > > >
> > > >
> > b26e56de602e27e175785c0@1337815698@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.o
> > r
> > > > g%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is one answer in there from Roy Fielding which has a
> > > > > > similar story to the one that you are describing, Steffen. My
> > > > > > main takeaway of what was discussed back then: "Diversity is
> > > > > > only a warning sign that means we need to check for decisions
> > > > > > made in our forums and advise accordingly."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The questions I personally tend to ask myself: How easy is it
to
> > > > > > follow
> > > > > the
> > > > > > project from just subscribing to it's mailing lists (remember
> > > > > > the "if it didn't happen on the mailing list, it didn't
> > > > > > happen"), get active, get involved, be treated as a fellow
> > > > > > project member and be voted in as committer and PMC member.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a more condensed text on the topic of "ASF projects are
made
> > > > > > of individuals"
> > > > > > you might also want to check out the ASF guidelines over there:
> > > > > > https://www.confluent.io/apache-engineering-guidelines/
> > > > > > https://www.confluent.io/apache-guidelines
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Related material was published at ApacheCon :
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFNE0IpKOxU
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's also lovely content that was recently produced over
at
> > > > > > dev@community:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/183nXPAxpJymQBOYOt1FnFaahRc
> > Q
> > > > skI
> > > > > vOyIvHRC6UAnE/edit#slide=id.g4a86a2ca5a_0_69
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isabel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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