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([2604:2000:ef12:da00:b856:77e4:abb2:7822]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y126-v6sm20068167qky.94.2018.10.31.15.06.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [VOTE] - Adopt "Become a Committer and PPMC Member" Document To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org References: Reply-To: ssc@apache.org From: Sebastian Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:06:33 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +1 (binding) On 30.10.18 12:37, Steffen Rochel wrote: > +1 non-binding > Thanks for driving the vote Carin! > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:31 AM Carin Meier wrote: > >> Sure PPMC stands for Podling Project Management Committee - >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html - I updated the document to >> have ",(Podling Project Management Committee)," in the both sections with >> a link where the abbreviation is first introduced. >> >> - Carin >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:09 PM Aaron Markham >> wrote: >> >>> +1 non-binding >>> One minor thing first: can you define PPMC in the doc? It's brought in >>> without saying what it stands for. Even the link it goes to just talks >>> about PMC and there's no mention of PMCC... so I'm not sure what the >>> definition is. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:07 AM Carin Meier >> wrote: >>> >>>> From the feedback in the thread. I changed the wording of "Privileges" >> to >>>> "Rights and Responsibilities". >>>> >>>> If I misunderstood anything, please let me know. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Carin >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:00 AM Sergio Fernández >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 since the Beam model is much more open than the current one. >>>>> >>>>> Here my two cents to the discussion: >>>>> >>>>> You can see that in the past was different,, but we had evolved as >>>>> foundation. As general recommendation, the new way is to spend less >>>> effort >>>>> in ad-hoc bylaws on every project/podling and adopt the general ones. >>> The >>>>> easier the project is managed, normally the better the community >>> evolves. >>>>> >>>>> In addition, as a linguistic detail: commiters and/or pmc do not have >>>> more >>>>> "privileges", but "responsibilities". >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 15:47 Carin Meier >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This vote is to adopt the document >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal >>>>>> to replace the current document >>>>>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer >>>>>> >>>>>> The dev discussion thread is here >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e61ffa26af374de7a99c475d406e462a00b26cfc1155e232198dd53e@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E >>>>>> >>>>>> The vote will be a procedural issue vote as defined >>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Votes on procedural issues follow the common format of majority >> rule >>>>> unless >>>>>> otherwise stated. That is, if there are more favourable votes than >>>>>> unfavourable ones, the issue is considered to have passed -- >>> regardless >>>>> of >>>>>> the number of votes in each category. (If the number of votes seems >>> too >>>>>> small to be representative of a community consensus, the issue is >>>>> typically >>>>>> not pursued. However, see the description of lazy consensus >>>>>> for >> a >>>>>> modifying factor.) >>>>>> >>>>>> The vote will run until Friday Nov 2nd at 6:00 am EST >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Carin >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >