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From Jason Dai <jason....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] - Revisions to Committer Criteria
Date Mon, 29 Oct 2018 13:54:34 GMT
Given the recent discussions around code review, I think it makes sense to
call out the importance of code review contributions for the committer
criteria.

Thanks,
-Jason

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I added clarifying sections to explicitly call out committers/PMC
> privileges. Please review.
>
> Pasting here for convenience
> Committer Privileges
>
>    - Committers have write access to the code repository.
>    - Committers have an @apache.org email address.
>    - Committers can make short-term decisions for the project, approving
>    and merging pull requests.
>    - Committer Vote is *NOT* considered *binding* thus the vote you cast do
>    not have *Veto* on issues that require consensus.
>    - Committer's can request changes on Pull Requests but it does not
>    constitute Veto, PMC can agree to approve or reject requested changes.
>
> PMC Privileges
>
>    - PMC makes the long-term decisions with regard to the project.
>    - PMC members have write access to the code repository.
>    - PMC members have @apache.org email address.
>    - PMC has access to private@ email list
>    - PMC has the right to vote for the community-related decisions, PMC
>    Votes are *binding*.
>    - PMC has the right to propose active users for committership.
>    - PMC must vote on any formal release of the project's software product.
>
>
> All, I suggest you review the proposal and if there is any concern please
> voice it here before this goes out for voting.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:04 AM Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I plan to start a vote on the adopting
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal
> > to
> > replace our current document
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer
> > tomorrow
> > (Monday).
> >
> > - Carin
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:32 AM Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for publishing the notes and also thanks everyone for providing
> > > valuable feedback and discussion.
> > >
> > > I encourage everyone that has ideas for improvement to the document to
> > > feel free to edit and revise. If you need a login to the wiki, please
> > just
> > > ask.
> > >
> > > Also, while editing, please keep in mind that the intent is to have a
> > vote
> > > on adopting the new
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal
> > > to replace our current document
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer
> > > before a vote on separating levels of committer and PPMC as a process.
> > So,
> > > if possible, adopting wording that would work in either outcome of that
> > > vote.
> > >
> > > On the subject of voting, I was thinking of starting a vote on Friday,
> > but
> > > will delay that until the active discussions and revisions are
> complete.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Carin
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:39 AM Pedro Larroy <
> > pedro.larroy.lists@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is the first hangout that I was able to attend, I liked the
> format
> > >> and
> > >> found them valuable. Thanks for organizing and publishing the notes.
> > >> Looking forward to the next one.
> > >>
> > >> Pedro
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:44 AM Steffen Rochel <
> steffenrochel@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Carin - please see
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Hangout+October+24th+2018+8am+and+5pm+PDT
> > >> > :
> > >> > Discussion about committer proposal:
> > >> >
> > >> >    - Proposal default should be to have separation between committer
> > and
> > >> >    PPMC election
> > >> >    - Criteria are vague, should we add some example persona?
> > >> >    - Spell out privileges of committer and PPMC member
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Note: I update the project proposal to address first bullet.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steffen
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:29 AM Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > A request to whoever is taking notes at the MXNet Hangouts that
> are
> > >> > > occurring today. Could you please recap feedback from the meeting
> in
> > >> > > regards to document revisions here for everyone? I would like
to
> > >> attend
> > >> > the
> > >> > > session later today, but may not due to family obligations.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks!
> > >> > > Carin
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM Steffen Rochel <
> > >> steffenrochel@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Carin - I got feedback on my proposal and made changes.
I
> > >> incorporated
> > >> > > > Tianqi's suggesiton that we should strive to nominate
> > committer/PPMC
> > >> > > > candidates from outside ones own organization. It should
not be
> > >> > > considered
> > >> > > > as a hard rule, but recommendation.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Steffen
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:18 PM Carin Meier <
> carinmeier@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks Steffen helping draft up the proposal for Committer
and
> > >> PPMC
> > >> > > > > guidelines.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Please everyone review and provide feedback
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+(incubating)+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal
> > >> > > > > .
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I plan to start a vote on this Friday if the
> > discussions/revisions
> > >> > are
> > >> > > > > complete.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > - Carin
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM Carin Meier <
> > >> carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Great!
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I started a rough draft for collaboration at
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+a+Committer+Proposal
> > >> > > > > > .
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Everyone feel free to enhance and provide feedback.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > - Carin
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:55 AM Steffen Rochel
<
> > >> > > > steffenrochel@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >> +1, great suggestion, thanks Carin!
> > >> > > > > >> I'm willing to collaborate to create a draft
proposal.
> > >> > > > > >> Steffen
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:35 AM Carin Meier
<
> > >> carinmeier@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> > Background:
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > There is a desire to increase the committer
pool and grow
> > the
> > >> > > > > community.
> > >> > > > > >> > This thread is to discuss the possibility
of revision the
> > >> > current
> > >> > > > > >> committer
> > >> > > > > >> > criteria in light of the following goals:
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > - Make it easier to newcomers to be committers
> > >> > > > > >> > - Recognize non-code contributions as
paths to
> > committership
> > >> > > > > >> > - Open the door to separating levels
of committer and PMC
> > >> > > (discussed
> > >> > > > > in
> > >> > > > > >> > another thread)
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > Current State:
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > The current committer criteria is here
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer
> > >> > > > > >> as
> > >> > > > > >> > is modeled after the Hadoop committer
criteria
> > >> > > > > >> > https://hadoop.apache.org/committer_criteria.html
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > Proposal:
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > Model the MXNet path to committership
and PMC after the
> > >> Apache
> > >> > > Beam
> > >> > > > > >> project
> > >> > > > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > Short quote from page:
> > >> > > > > >> >       =================
> > >> > > > > >> > An Apache Beam committer…
> > >> > > > > >> > <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#an-apache-beam-committer
> > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> >    - Takes many forms
> > >> > > > > >> >    <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#takes-many-forms
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> >    - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the
Apache Software
> > >> > Foundation
> > >> > > > > code
> > >> > > > > >> of
> > >> > > > > >> >    conduct
> > >> > > > > >> >    <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-apache-software-foundation-code-of-conduct
> > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >> >    - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the
responsibilities
> of
> > >> an
> > >> > > > Apache
> > >> > > > > >> >    Software Foundation committer
> > >> > > > > >> >    <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-responsibilities-of-an-apache-software-foundation-committer
> > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >> >    - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the
Beam community’s
> > >> > practices
> > >> > > > > >> >    <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices
> > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >> >    - =================
> > >> > > > > >> >    <
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices
> > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > I believe if we merge our current committer
criteria with
> > >> this
> > >> > > model
> > >> > > > > it
> > >> > > > > >> > will open  the path to committership
to a wider pool,
> > >> > acknowledge
> > >> > > > that
> > >> > > > > >> > there are multiple paths, and reinforce
the ASF values
> and
> > >> > > > > >> > responsibilities.
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > The Beam model does not explicitly address
a PMC level
> but
> > we
> > >> > > could
> > >> > > > > add
> > >> > > > > >> it
> > >> > > > > >> > in in the same spirit of reinforcing
the ASF
> > responsibilities
> > >> > and
> > >> > > > > >> values of
> > >> > > > > >> > this level.
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > Looking forward to feedback about this
possible
> direction.
> > If
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > >> community
> > >> > > > > >> > is interested looking more into this
direction I would be
> > >> happy
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > >> create
> > >> > > > > >> > of first draft of something more concrete
to look at -
> (or
> > if
> > >> > > > someone
> > >> > > > > >> else
> > >> > > > > >> > wants to take a crack at it too that
would be great)
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >> > - Carin
> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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