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From Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] - Adopt "Become a Committer and PPMC Member" Document
Date Tue, 30 Oct 2018 00:58:44 GMT
-0 but keep it in if you want

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:50 PM Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com> wrote:

> or another example if something is downvoted, this also implies that after
> a vote is over, it’s approprorate to continue pushing the subject trying to
> just wear everyone down even though the outcome is clear. We’ve seen this
> before, actually.
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:41 PM Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> -1 “strive to meet consensus”? This seems to imply the consensus is the
>> natural expected state. So in the case where someone submits that we should
>> start a nuclear war, then our bylaws would state that we should all try to
>> agree to start a nuclear war.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:41 PM Tianqi Chen <tqchen@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carin:
>>>     Sorry for the last minute request, but given the way we write down
>>> the
>>> PMC, committer privileges, I feel we need to add an additional line:
>>>
>>>    - "PMC/committer should strive to be diplomatic and reach consensus
>>> with
>>> discussion when possible."
>>>
>>>    Since I don't really want us to give an impression of abusing veto
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tianqi
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:47 PM Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > This vote is to adopt the document
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal
>>> > to replace the current document
>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer
>>> >
>>> > The dev discussion thread is here
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e61ffa26af374de7a99c475d406e462a00b26cfc1155e232198dd53e@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E
>>> >
>>> > The vote will be a procedural issue vote as defined
>>> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>> >
>>> > Votes on procedural issues follow the common format of majority rule
>>> unless
>>> > otherwise stated. That is, if there are more favourable votes than
>>> > unfavourable ones, the issue is considered to have passed --
>>> regardless of
>>> > the number of votes in each category. (If the number of votes seems too
>>> > small to be representative of a community consensus, the issue is
>>> typically
>>> > not pursued. However, see the description of lazy consensus
>>> > <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#LazyConsensus> for
a
>>> > modifying factor.)
>>> >
>>> > The vote will run until Friday Nov 2nd at 6:00 am EST
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Carin
>>> >
>>>
>>

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