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From Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: Deprecate python 2
Date Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:29:14 GMT
I can't remember exactly where I found it, but I found the following
statements:
- "only a commercially supported subset of Fedora derived packages are
included in the RHEL distribution" [1]
- "there are no commercial support contracts or service level agreements
provided by Red Hat for packages in EPEL" [2]
- "How can we be sure that someone will maintain the packages until end of
life of the distribution the packages were built for?" -> "The only way to
be sure is to do it yourself" [3]
- "Red Hat Global Support Services will be unable to support or debug
problems with packages not shipped in standard RHEL channels." [4]
- "The EPEL repository is not a part of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and does
not fall under Red Hat's Production Support Scope of Coverage. The
repository is considered an optional repository and is not tested by Red
Hat quality engineers." [4]

Like I said, I've never used RHEL and thus have limited knowledge about the
conventions. The statements above just gave me the impression that EPEL is
not a preferred choice for customers in a production. Considering Python2
is part of the RHEL repository and Python3 only exists in EPEL, I thought
that this would make sense.

The stable repository of EPEL is described at [5] and the testing one at
[6].

Best regards,
Marco

[1]:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#Why_is_the_Fedora_Project_sponsoring_EPEL.3F
[2]:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#Is_EPEL_commercially_supported_by_Red_Hat.3F
[3]:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#How_can_we_be_sure_that_someone_will_maintain_the_packages_until_end_of_life_of_the_distribution_the_packages_were_built_for.3F
[4]: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/3358
[5]:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL#How_can_I_use_these_extra_packages.3F
[6]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/testing

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:40 AM Chen HY <chenhy12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could you please finding the original document you have read about EPEL?
> I just check the EPEL website again, failed to find a stable repository
> you mentioned.
> As my understanding, EPEL repo is as reliable as other non-commercial rpm
> repository.
>
> Website: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
>
> HY
>
>
> 发件人: Marco de Abreu
> 发送时间: 2018年7月13日 0:27
> 收件人: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: Deprecate python 2
>
> Sorry, I pressed the send button too early. I think epel repository is not
> deemed stable enough that it qualifies to be used in all Enterprise
> environments - epel itself has a stable and a release repository. I'm not
> very familiar with CentOS or RHEL, but that's what I read when I designed
> the CentOS docker containers. If anybody has more knowledge I'm happy to
> get corrected here :)
>
> -Marco
>
> Marco de Abreu <marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> schrieb am Fr., 13. Juli
> 2018, 01:23:
>
> > As far as I know is the epel repository not considered stable.
> >
> > Chen HY <chenhy12345@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 13. Juli 2018, 00:18:
> >
> >> CentOS 7 has Python 3.4.8 and python 3.6.3 in epel repo.
> >> Is that stable ?
> >> HY
> >> 发件人: Marco de Abreu
> >> 发送时间: 2018年7月12日 23:00
> >> 收件人: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> >> 主题: Re: Deprecate python 2
> >>
> >> CentOS 7, for example, does not offer stable Python 3 support. We're
> using
> >> an unstable version in our CI to verify it none the less. I think
> that's a
> >> hard stop for quite a few users.
> >>
> >> -Marco
> >>
> >> Pedro Larroy <pedro.larroy.lists@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 12. Juli
> >> 2018,
> >> 23:51:
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > I would like to know your opinion in regards to deprecating and
> removing
> >> > Python 2. Maybe for MXNet 2.0 ?
> >> >
> >> > What's the reason to have support for Python2?
> >> >
> >> > Pedro.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

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