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From Naveen Swamy <mnnav...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Abandoned MXNet readthedocs site
Date Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:13:18 GMT
Ideally we want to remove this site or at the least redirect it to the
mxnet.apache.org website

I don't think we should be maintaining two different sites with same or
similar content, though seems simple at start its going to be headache in
maintaining.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Marco de Abreu <
marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> We could add that doc to our CI nightly pipeline or auto generate it by
> extracting certain parts from our website, thus reducing the maintenance
> overhead.
>
> In general, I'd think that it's not feasible to add a redirect. But I think
> it would be desirable to get the readthedocs page under our control and
> bring it back into a good shape. The number of referrals we get from that
> website is quite substantial.
>
> -Marco
>
> Aaron Markham <aaron.s.markham@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 5. Juli 2018,
> 20:38:
>
> > If they could redirect to the official website that would be ideal.
> > Otherwise, we'd be supporting yet another doc outlet and possibly run
> into
> > the same problem of it getting out of sync and being incorrect.
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2018 10:32, "Craig Russell" <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Peanut gallery please ignore if off topic.
> >
> > Does the mxnet project want to manage the page or remove it?
> >
> > Would it be better to improve the readthedocs page since it is so
> > frequently found when searching for mxnet install?
> >
> > I assume Hen is trying to get the page owner changed to a (P)PMC managed
> > account?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Hen <bayard@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I’ve Twitter DM’d one of the core members of ReadTheDocs asking for
> help.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:43 AM Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org
> > <mailto:mattmann@apache.org>> wrote:
> > > Hi Hen happy 4th looks like a brand mgmt. topic to me…
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Hen <bayard@apache.org <mailto:bayard@apache.org>>
> > > Reply-To: <dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> > dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org>>
> >
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:44 AM
> > > To: <dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> > dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
> > >>
> > > Cc: "legal-discuss@apache.org <mailto:legal-discuss@apache.org>" <
> > legal-discuss@apache.org <mailto:legal-discuss@apache.org>>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Abandoned MXNet readthedocs site
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris/Mark - is this a Legal (Chris) topic or a Brand Management (Mark)
> > >
> > > topic?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m hesitant to use a Trademark C&D for what’s in effect a lost
> account,
> > >
> > > but that’s what readthedocs seem to be asking for.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM Markham, Aaron
> > <markhama@amazon.com.invalid>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, just bumping this issue again. Can we get a trademark C&D sent to
> the
> > >
> > > readthedocs folks, so they'll go ahead and remove the derelict website?
> > >
> > > It's still the #4 result in Google for "mxnet install".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What's Apache's process?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/16/18, 8:20 AM, "Hen" <bayard@apache.org <mailto:
> bayard@apache.org
> > >>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      It seems we (Apache MXNet) have an old documentation site posted
> at:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >          https://newdocs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ <
> > https://newdocs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      and only the absent @Awyan has the permissions to the site. See
> > >
> > >      https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/10409 <
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/10409> for more
> > >
> > > details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      Raising this with readthedocs.org <http://readthedocs.org/>,
> we've
> > been asked to submit a DMCA
> >
> > >
> > >      request to take down the account:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >          https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/4042 <
> > https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/4042>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      Given our docs are Apache licensed I suspect it's really a
> trademark
> > >
> > >      takedown (confused users etc). Does anyone here have any guidance
> > with
> > >
> > > this
> > >
> > >      situation? Has anyone had this issue with readthedocs before?
> Should
> > >
> > > we be
> > >
> > >      sending them a Trademark takedown request?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      Hen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> > clr@apache.org <mailto:clr@apache.org> http://db.apache.org/jdo <
> > http://db.apache.org/jdo>
> >
>

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