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From Eric Xie <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Vote to stop using JIRA
Date Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:00:37 GMT
I think the number of issues become less of a problem if we label them timely, which is already
improving.

Thanks,
Eric

On 2018/06/08 17:55:28, Tianqi Chen <tqchen@cs.washington.edu> wrote: 
> I would suggest we have a separate discussion issue about transparency.
> First of all, I agree that transparency is important.
> 
> This can be achieved by public roadmaps, RFCs, that do not have
> particularly tie to JIRA or github issues. Having a clear guideline on that
> would be great, and it is great to see more RFCs in the dev list.
> 
> In terms of issues themselves, I think one problem we are facing is
> overflowing amount of issues. One way to minimize this would be to redirect
> more questions to forums, and only keep issues that are actionable and
> encourage the committers who opens the issue to fix them timely.
> 
> Tianqi
> 
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > -1 (binding)
> >
> > The very reason why JIRA was suggested so that the project is more open on
> > the features that are worked on. There are 900+ issues, that once in a
> > while gets closed without any reason has happened already once.
> > There is already integration with GitHub PRs, please check it out.
> >
> > Features pop into the code-base without any discussion, they also get
> > removed without any discussion. PRs come in when the feature is complete,
> > not giving others  opportunity to understand/contribute or have a say.
> >
> > If this project embraces the true Apache spirit and follow successful
> > practices we could get lot more people excited about this project. Many
> > successful Apache projects use JIRA, look at Apache Spark which has 1250+
> > contributors and built a community of 500,000 people around the world.
> >
> > -Naveen
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Eric Xie <jxie@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Since all of MXNet's development happens on Github, I think it's
> > > sufficient to use Github Issues and Github Projects for tracking. There
> > are
> > > also many other plugins you can add to Github if issues and projects are
> > > not enough.
> > >
> > > It's very easy to cross reference PRs and issues for tracking. In
> > > comparison, JIRA is an outdated system with very little features and no
> > > integration with Github. I think using it achieves nothing but additional
> > > overhead.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> 

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