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From Sergio Fernández <wik...@apache.org>
Subject Re: users@mxnet
Date Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:24:01 GMT
Thanks for your opinion, Tianqi. I still would love to listen others'
opinion on the topic to really assert anything.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:41 Tianqi Chen <tqchen@cs.washington.edu> wrote:

> Then who should represent the users who are using the forums but not the
> mail-list? I personally think it is a bit abuse use of the term "Apache
> way" to force our mind into the entire community... Maybe I am wrong..
>
> Tianqi
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Sergio Fernández <wikier@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, I do respect what you discussed in that meetup, if course. But for
> > those who weren't there, maybe the decision taken what a bit bias.
> >
> > In Apache we like to say that "if it didn't happen on the mailing list s,
> > it didn't happen" ;-)
> >
> > Look like there are different feelings about this. Should I cast a VOTE?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:27 Tianqi Chen <tqchen@cs.washington.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I do think we are targeting all the community, but we must also agree
> > that
> > > the voice of users from the meetup is a representative sample of users'
> > > demand, and it is important that we respect that.
> > >
> > > Tianqi
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Sergio Fernández <wikier@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we targeting just Seattle as our community? I really hope we are
> > > > thinking a bit beyond that...
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:22 Tianqi Chen <tqchen@cs.washington.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I remember last time during the mxnet meetup in Seattle, we did a
> > > survey,
> > > > > and most users preferred the current discuss forum. So I would say
> we
> > > > stick
> > > > > with that given the user community prefers that
> > > > >
> > > > > Tianqi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Sergio Fernández <
> wikier@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Then, if everybody agree, let's request the mailing list creation
> > to
> > > > > INFRA
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marco, I wouldn't do that. Typically developers are also
> subscribed
> > > > > there,
> > > > > > since they may be the most informed people for answering users'
> > > > > questions.
> > > > > > But the topics discussed there may not be of the interest for
> pure
> > > > > > development purposes. Some discussions will jump from users@
to
> > dev@
> > > ,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > at a different level. So I wouldn't forward one mailing list
to
> the
> > > > > other.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:01 Marco de Abreu
> > > > > > <marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think nobody was opposed to it in the past, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd propose that all emails automatically get copied to
dev@
> to
> > > > ensure
> > > > > > > high
> > > > > > > visibility initially. What do you think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sebastian <ssc@apache.org> schrieb am Fr., 15. Juni
2018,
> 20:51:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have already proposed this many times in the past
and would
> > > > > strongly
> > > > > > > > encourage it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -s
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 15.06.2018 21:56, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > is there any good reason why the podling doesn't
have a
> > users@
> > > > > > mailing
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > > yet?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Honestly speaking, I'm not a big fan of the other
tools the
> > > > podling
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > using. Slack and Web forums a cool tools, and
I used them a
> > lot
> > > > in
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > contexts. But when it comes to transparency and
community,
> > > > mailing
> > > > > > > lists
> > > > > > > > > play a crucial role in the Apache Way.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Users are the most important asset a project
can have. Even
> > > more
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > developers, believe me. So I think it's time
to create a
> > users@
> > > > > > > mailing
> > > > > > > > > list for to helping MXNet grow its community
beyong the
> core
> > > > team.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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