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From Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: Clojure Package
Date Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:17:09 GMT
I think we should try to separate this migration into multiple stages:
1. Move into contrib
2. Migrate release pipeline
3. Migrate tests
4. Improvements
5. Mark as stable and announce Julia officially

I know how much effort Carin and the other maintainers are putting into
that project and thus I'd like to make the migration as easy as possible.
If we try to cover release, test and improvements from Day 1, we're going
to make the entire migration a very hard and lengthy process. Considering
the project already has its own CI and maintains a high code quality, I'm
confident that some time without CI would be fine. We should make this
iteratively. The first big goal would really be to have the project in our
repository - everything else can be followed up later on.

-Marco


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh great. Thanks, Chen for clarifying. That's correct, the Clojure uses the
> Scala generation which makes use of this :)
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No need to be disappointed, Scala generated APIs by code generation for
> > ndarray and symbol and if clojure depends on Scala it get those as well.
> >
> > > On Jun 10, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Chen HY <chenhy12345@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep. An example is the cpp port used following code to generate op.h
> > > automatically.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/blob/master/
> > cpp-package/scripts/OpWrapperGenerator.py
> > >
> > > It makes easier for everyone to follow up with the latest APIs.
> > > It is disappointing if the python version supports the latest API but
> the
> > > version of your favorite language doesn't.
> > >
> > > 2018-06-10 14:19 GMT+01:00 Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> this is fantastic, thanks for being a champ. I am glad to have you
> join
> > us
> > >> :). Yes, we would love to make it work and be available for our users,
> > you
> > >> can make features available iteratively. I understand you alone can't
> > have
> > >> everything in one go, I am hoping more contributors will join the
> > effort.
> > >>
> > >> My guess is Chen is recommending generation of Clojure code from
> Scala.
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Naveen,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks. I appreciate your help. I acknowledge there are some
> challenges
> > >> in
> > >>> trying to bring in a new language package, but I think if we can make
> > it
> > >>> work, it will be the best way for it to grow along with the MXNet
> > project
> > >>> and be a good fit with its goals and ecosystem long term.
> > >>>
> > >>> I added a confluence page of the general state of what is working and
> > >> needs
> > >>> help.
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/
> > >>> Clojure+Package+Contribution+Needs.
> > >>> Feel free to edit.
> > >>>
> > >>> Chen,
> > >>>
> > >>> I added the code generator use on the page as well. I don't fully
> > >>> understand what you are proposing, but I would like to. If you could
> > >>> provide some more details to help me, that would be great.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Carin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Chen HY <chenhy12345@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I personally think that is the reason the clojure package should
use
> > >> more
> > >>>> code generator.
> > >>>> It makes easier to build everything align with scala package.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2018-06-10 12:45 GMT+01:00 Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have called for contribution within my organization to help
with
> > >> the
> > >>>>> review, some of them have shown interest and hope to see them
help
> > >> with
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>> review. Carin, I learnt you are popular to have given great
talks
> on
> > >>>>> Clojure.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Could I please ask you document what functionality is working
and
> > >> what
> > >>>>> parts of it need contribution.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In general I want to request a few things:
> > >>>>> Good API documentation,
> > >>>>> Examples, turn examples into integration tests.
> > >>>>> Tests, more tests
> > >>>>> Everything testable on CI.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In the long term, We have to think how to maintain API
> compatibility
> > >>> and
> > >>>>> tests across language bindings.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks, Naveen
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 2:38 AM, YiZhi Liu <eazhi.liu@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Carin,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thank you for the great work. I'll do the review. As I
have no
> > >>>>>> expertise in Clojure, it will really help to have people
from
> > >> Clojure
> > >>>>>> community reviewing it as well :)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2018-06-08 14:22 GMT-07:00 Carin Meier <carinmeier@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>> A couple of questions came up in regard to the PR and
the current
> > >>>> test
> > >>>>>>> suite state as well as the best way to review the PR
since it is
> > >> a
> > >>>> new
> > >>>>>>> language binding.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In regards to the Clojure test suite, most of the Scala
test
> > >> suite
> > >>>> has
> > >>>>>> been
> > >>>>>>> ported over with the goal of having comparable coverage.
I can go
> > >>>>> ahead a
> > >>>>>>> put in a coverage tool to make that it a bit more transparent.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> For reviewing, I have a couple people in the Clojure
community
> > >> that
> > >>>> are
> > >>>>>>> interested in collaborating in this project and I can
ask them
> > >> for
> > >>>> help
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> reviewing the PR in some way if that is helpful too.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm also open to other suggestions.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> Carin
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Carin Meier <
> > >> carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here is the PR https://github.com/apache/
> > >>> incubator-mxnet/pull/11205
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I've ported in the content from the external github
repo (
> > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/gigasquid/clojure-mxnet), that
has been
> > >> tested
> > >>>> by
> > >>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>> of the Clojure community, into the contrib directory.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> There is still lots more to do in relation to adding
tests,
> > >>>>> benchmarks,
> > >>>>>>>> and increasing stability, but I thought this might
be a good
> > >> point
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>> bring
> > >>>>>>>> it in initially so that the other work can be reviewed
in
> > >> smaller
> > >>>>>> chunks.
> > >>>>>>>> I also would like to get other people involved
in making it
> > >>> better,
> > >>>>> so I
> > >>>>>>>> thought that having the base package in there would
be a good
> > >>>> starting
> > >>>>>>>> point for collaboration.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Feedback welcome.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> - Carin
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Carin Meier <
> > >>> carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone. I'll work on getting together
a PR with your
> > >>>>> feedback
> > >>>>>>>>> and post it here.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Chen HY <chenhy12345@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would suggest using code generators in
case upstream library
> > >>>>> adding
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> functions for arrays.
> > >>>>>>>>>> It seems that cpp binding is using a code
generator and works
> > >>>> fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-06-05 7:59 GMT+01:00 Naveen Swamy
<mnnaveen@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~/mxnet/contrib/clojure-package good
place for the code.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the package name org.apache.mxnet.contrib.clojure
? do you
> > >>> need
> > >>>>>> mxnet
> > >>>>>>>>>>> again?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to request to run some benchmarks
and document. One
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> reasons
> > >>>>>>>>>>> users use MXNet is because of its performance
and we want to
> > >>>>> ensure
> > >>>>>>>>>> that we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintain it across language bindings.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Also invite your other clojure programmer
buddies to the
> > >> party
> > >>>> :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Naveen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Carin
Meier <
> > >>>> carinmeier@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh right. That's not a problem,
I wonder if something like
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.mxnet.contrib/clojure-mxnet
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> would work?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like it is the right
direction, we could
> > >> work
> > >>>> out
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> details
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in a PR.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:44 PM,
Naveen Swamy <
> > >>>>> mnnaveen@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with your assessment
that we shouldn't need the
> > >>> user
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> change
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> their code. I am not sure if
we can release under
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.clojure-mxnet
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we might have to stick with
our primary group id
> > >>>>>> org.apache.mxnet
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> may
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be create a sub-package under
it? any creative ideas?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:29
PM, Carin Meier <
> > >>>>>> carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback
everyone.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the contrib
option. I think it's a great
> > >> path
> > >>>>>> forward
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow it time for feedback,
contribution by others,
> > >> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> stabilization.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm understanding correctly,
that would mean
> > >> putting
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> source
> > >>>>>>>>>>> code
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/mxnet/contrib/clojure-package
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and having the artifact
jar named
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> `org.apache.contrib.clojure-mxnet/clojure-mxnet`
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend not having
the individual namespaces
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contrib embedded in them,
so that if it graduates,
> > >> users
> > >>>>> won't
> > >>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change their code, only
the dependency.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if this
is correct or if there are
> > >>> any
> > >>>>>> other
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ideas.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Carin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at
4:03 PM, Naveen Swamy <
> > >>>>>> mnnaveen@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that's a great
idea to bring in under
> > >> contrib
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>> also
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user feedback
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 4, 2018,
at 12:44 PM, sandeep
> > >> krishnamurthy <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sandeep.krishna98@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carin,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a commendable
work. Thanks a lot for all
> > >> the
> > >>>>> hard
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> smart
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have put behind
this :-) I think this will be
> > >> a
> > >>>>> great
> > >>>>>>>>>> value
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people are not
sure about usage, can I suggest
> > >>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>> awesome
> > >>>>>>>>>>> work
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brought in "contrib"
package? Invite and build the
> > >>>>>> community
> > >>>>>>>>>>> around
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clojure, stabilize
and increase the coverage, and
> > >>>> based
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>> usage
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development, graduate
it to main stable support
> > >> from
> > >>>>>> contrib.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestions and
thoughts?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandeep
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 4,
2018 at 12:27 PM, Ivan Serdyuk <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local.tourist.kiev@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small comment,
about Scala API: main commiters
> > >>> are
> > >>>>>> hardly
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> available,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for today.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for Clojure
- I might suggest that it might be
> > >>>>>> possible
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> enlight
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future work,
for that package, for Clojure
> > >>>> developers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon,
Jun 4, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Naveen Swamy <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> mnnaveen@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carin,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is
great effort and very nicely documented.
> > >>>> When
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> surveyed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job on
the interest for Scala packages there
> > >> were
> > >>> a
> > >>>>> few
> > >>>>>>>>>> people
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
were interested in the Clojure
> > >>>> packages,
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>> think
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
who might have tried and understand the
> > >>>>>> complexity
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scala
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work in
Clojure.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am in
support of a MXNet-Clojure package, I
> > >>>> request
> > >>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> add
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unit
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests and
integration tests that can be ported
> > >> to
> > >>>> CI.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
for your efforts.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Naveen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri,
Jun 1, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Carin Meier <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> carinmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
is always a good thing to consider the cost
> > >>> with
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> benefit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best
to explain what I see the tradeoffs to be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First,
I wanted to clarify that it took
> > >>> significant
> > >>>>>>>>>>> development
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
the Clojure package and the interop working
> > >>>>>> properly
> > >>>>>>>>>>> despite
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
design on the confluence page :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One
of the advantages of MXNet over its
> > >>> competitors
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>> its
> > >>>>>>>>>>> many
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
The Clojure package would only
> > >> increase
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> value of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposition
and bring new users and growth into
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> community.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
there is a cost associated with adding
> > >>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>> language
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
pointed out.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since
the Clojure package right now is only
> > >>> reliant
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Scala
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jars
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven,
it can exist outside the main project as
> > >>> an
> > >>>>>>>>>> independent
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
that would lessen the growth benefit both
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> Clojure
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
to the MXNet community to not be included
> > >> as
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>> first
> > >>>>>>>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe
having first class Clojure support in
> > >>>> MXNet
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> valuable,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost
of that support is up to the community to
> > >>>>> decide.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
there a process for considering a new
> > >> package
> > >>> in
> > >>>>>> MXNet?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Carin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Chen HY <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> chenhy12345@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Have checked the issue and the confluence
> > >> page,
> > >>>> but
> > >>>>>> still
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> curious.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Clojure and Scala are both JVM based
> > >> languages.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
They, as well as many JVM based languages, can
> > >>>> share
> > >>>>>>>>>> their
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
at a certain level.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why should the community maintain two APIs for
> > >>> two
> > >>>>>>>>>> languages
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
their packages with almost zero effort?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2018-06-01 21:58 GMT+01:00 Carin Meier <
> > >>>>>>>>>> carinmeier@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've been working on a Clojure package for
> > >>> MXNet.
> > >>>>>> Since
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Clojure
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JVM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
language, the package leverages the great
> > >> work
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> existing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scala
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
package.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I would appreciate any feedback and testing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here is the original issue:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/apache/
> > >>>>>> incubator-mxnet/issues/8971
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Architecture & Design:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > >>>> confluence/display/MXNET/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> MXNet+Clojure
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and the github repo for rapid testing and
> > >> issue
> > >>>>>> fixing
> > >>>>>>>>>>> before
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
an
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
official PR https://github.com/gigasquid/
> > >>>>>> clojure-mxnet
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm also active in the slack channel so feel
> > >>> free
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> ping me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Carin Meier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
--
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Chen Hanyang 陈涵洋
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Software School Fudan University
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
+86-138-1881-7745
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandeep Krishnamurthy
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Chen Hanyang 陈涵洋
> > >>>>>>>>>> Software School Fudan University
> > >>>>>>>>>> +86-138-1881-7745
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Yizhi Liu
> > >>>>>> DMLC member
> > >>>>>> Amazon Web Services
> > >>>>>> Vancouver, Canada
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Chen Hanyang 陈涵洋
> > >>>> Software School Fudan University
> > >>>> +86-138-1881-7745
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chen Hanyang 陈涵洋
> > > Software School Fudan University
> > > +86-138-1881-7745
> >
>

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