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From Nan Zhu <zhunanmcg...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Change Scala namespace from dmlc to org.apache
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:47:26 GMT
re Chris: I do not have any good idea about this.....

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
wrote:

> is it possible to somehow alias a namespace in scala
> in order to maintain backwards compatibility?
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:21 AM Nan Zhu <zhunanmcgill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > and additional suggestion is do it ASAP
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > not sure I understand. How could changing a java namespace (effectively
> > > moving the files to a different location as well as changing the
> package
> > > names) be backward-compatible?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:02 PM Steffen Rochel <
> steffenrochel@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I suggest the vote should call out if the change is breaking backward
> > > > compatibility or not.
> > > > I looked through the scala name changing thread and don't see
> > > justification
> > > > for a backward incompatible change.
> > > > I do agree it would be good to change the name space, but have not
> > seen a
> > > > reason why the change has to be made now in backward incompatible
> way.
> > > > Non-binding vote:
> > > > +1 for backward compatible namespace change
> > > > -1 for backward incompatible namespace change
> > > >
> > > > Suggest to explore package aliasing for a backward compatible change
> -
> > > see
> > > > a possible idea at
> > > >
> > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28238520/python-
> > > like-package-name-aliasing-in-scala
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steffen
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Rahul Huilgol <
> rahulhuilgol@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to change the namespace as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Roshani Nagmote <
> > > > > roshaninagmote2@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 to change the namespace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Chris Olivier <
> > > cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The assumption is that it would be changed more-or-less
> > > immediately.
> > > > > ie.
> > > > > > > this is like a voted PR, I guess.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Chris Olivier <
> > > > cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is about changing the namespace.  As far as I know,
the
> > > version
> > > > > > number
> > > > > > > > of the next release is not defined.
> > > > > > > > At such point where a release is announced, one could
> comment,
> > > vote
> > > > > > > > whatever on the chosen version of that release, I
suppose.
> But
> > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > beyond the scope of this vote, because the "next release"
is
> > not
> > > > yet
> > > > > > > > defined.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > > > > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Just for clarification: Is this vote about changing
the
> > > namespace
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> next release?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Naveen Swamy
<
> > > mnnaveen@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Chris, Thanks for starting this vote.
> > > > > > > >> > This is long pending
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > +1 to change org.apache namespace
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Marco de
Abreu <
> > > > > > > >> > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > I gave my +1 for the code modification.
The -1 was for
> Nan
> > > > Zhus
> > > > > > > >> proposal
> > > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > > >> > > get it into 1.2.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Chris
Olivier <
> > > > > > > cjolivier01@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > If you're tying this to a process
issue, then it's no
> > > > longer a
> > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > >> > > > modification technical vote.
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM,
Marco de Abreu <
> > > > > > > >> > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Right
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
schrieb am
> Mo.,
> > > 12.
> > > > > > März
> > > > > > > >> 2018,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > 17:38:
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Are you saying your vote
is contingent upon the
> > > outcome
> > > > > of a
> > > > > > > >> > separate
> > > > > > > >> > > > > vote?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018
at 9:37 AM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > +1 for changing
the namespace
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -1 for merging this
change into master according
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> current
> > > > > > > >> > > > policy
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
schrieb
> am
> > > Mo.,
> > > > > 12.
> > > > > > > >> März
> > > > > > > >> > > 2018,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 17:34:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Release versioning
is a separate issue or
> vote.
> > > At
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >> > time,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > can "demand"
version X or Y.  This vote
> > represents
> > > > "do
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > >> want
> > > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > change
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > the namespace".
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar
12, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Nan Zhu <
> > > > > > > >> > zhunanmcgill@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I think
we'd specify it will change in the
> > next
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > >> > (1.2)?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Mon,
Mar 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Chris
> > Olivier <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This
vote is for the code-change of
> altering
> > > the
> > > > > > Scala
> > > > > > > >> API
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > namespace
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > dmlc
to org.apache.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Vote
will conclude on Thursday, 5pm PDT.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thank
you,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rahul Huilgol
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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