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From Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Change Scala namespace from dmlc to org.apache
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:21:54 GMT
not sure I understand. How could changing a java namespace (effectively
moving the files to a different location as well as changing the package
names) be backward-compatible?


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:02 PM Steffen Rochel <steffenrochel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suggest the vote should call out if the change is breaking backward
> compatibility or not.
> I looked through the scala name changing thread and don't see justification
> for a backward incompatible change.
> I do agree it would be good to change the name space, but have not seen a
> reason why the change has to be made now in backward incompatible way.
> Non-binding vote:
> +1 for backward compatible namespace change
> -1 for backward incompatible namespace change
>
> Suggest to explore package aliasing for a backward compatible change - see
> a possible idea at
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28238520/python-like-package-name-aliasing-in-scala
>
>
> Steffen
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Rahul Huilgol <rahulhuilgol@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > We need to change the namespace as soon as possible.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Roshani Nagmote <
> > roshaninagmote2@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to change the namespace
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The assumption is that it would be changed more-or-less immediately.
> > ie.
> > > > this is like a voted PR, I guess.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Chris Olivier <
> cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It is about changing the namespace.  As far as I know, the version
> > > number
> > > > > of the next release is not defined.
> > > > > At such point where a release is announced, one could comment, vote
> > > > > whatever on the chosen version of that release, I suppose.  But
> > that's
> > > > > beyond the scope of this vote, because the "next release" is not
> yet
> > > > > defined.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Just for clarification: Is this vote about changing the namespace
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > >> next release?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Naveen Swamy <mnnaveen@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Chris, Thanks for starting this vote.
> > > > >> > This is long pending
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1 to change org.apache namespace
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > > >> > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > I gave my +1 for the code modification. The -1 was
for Nan
> Zhus
> > > > >> proposal
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > > get it into 1.2.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Chris Olivier <
> > > > cjolivier01@gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > If you're tying this to a process issue, then
it's no
> longer a
> > > > code
> > > > >> > > > modification technical vote.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Marco de Abreu
<
> > > > >> > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Right
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
schrieb am Mo., 12.
> > > März
> > > > >> 2018,
> > > > >> > > > > 17:38:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Are you saying your vote is contingent
upon the outcome
> > of a
> > > > >> > separate
> > > > >> > > > > vote?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Marco
de Abreu <
> > > > >> > > > > > marco.g.abreu@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > +1 for changing the namespace
> > > > >> > > > > > > -1 for merging this change into
master according to
> the
> > > > >> current
> > > > >> > > > policy
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > Chris Olivier <cjolivier01@gmail.com>
schrieb am Mo.,
> > 12.
> > > > >> März
> > > > >> > > 2018,
> > > > >> > > > > > > 17:34:
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Release versioning is a separate
issue or vote.  At
> > > > release
> > > > >> > time,
> > > > >> > > > > > people
> > > > >> > > > > > > > can "demand" version X or
Y.  This vote represents
> "do
> > > we
> > > > >> want
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > > > > > change
> > > > >> > > > > > > > the namespace".
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:30
AM, Nan Zhu <
> > > > >> > zhunanmcgill@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I think we'd specify
it will change in the next
> > > version
> > > > >> > (1.2)?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018
at 9:26 AM, Chris Olivier <
> > > > >> > > > > > cjolivier01@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This vote is for
the code-change of altering the
> > > Scala
> > > > >> API
> > > > >> > > > > > namespace
> > > > >> > > > > > > > from
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > dmlc to org.apache.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Vote will conclude
on Thursday, 5pm PDT.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -Chris
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Rahul Huilgol
> >
>

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