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From Henri Yandell <he...@yandell.org>
Subject Re: MXNet website redesign
Date Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:39:08 GMT
Clarifying as I think Isabel was too gentle :)

Before coming to Apache, there had been much talk of redoing the website,
perhaps via a dayjob contribution. I double checked at ApacheCon with Sally
that that was sane (corporate contribution of a website design).

The evolution of that conversation is that Seb & Dom (as part of their
dayjob at Amazon) have a proposal for a new look and feel. They would like
feedback. There is no pPMC activity here Dom/Seb, this is you personally
proposing a website redesign to the MXNet PPMC, of which you are not a part.

Currently the MXNet committers/PPMC are very strongly code-focused. As an
Amazon employee, I love that we (Amazon) have non-coders interested in
working on the project. I dream of a day where project managers, web
designers, tech editors, paper writing scientists and evangelists are able
to be committers too. We (Apache) want that - Apache committers should be a
diverse bunch, not just coders.

This kind of pain point is going to happen. Apache have a general
too-code-focused culture, which we (Apache) acknowledge. Until we (MXNet)
are more open to adding non-coding committers (in deed as well as word),
trying to contribute outside of coding is like trying to move a Snorlax[1].

Hen

1 - https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Snorlax_(Pok%C3%A9mon)


On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Dominic Divakaruni <
dominic.divakaruni@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this: >The pPMC would like to update the website.
>
> is just to say that, the project's mentors reached out to the folks who
> helped with the infra migration with a reminder about the website updates
> that are needed.
>
> I don't believe that a decision was made out of sight. Though I do fully
> agree that this reminder and the follow on website design should have been
> discussed on dev@ first.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isabel@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all, great to read there are people with interest and time to
> > update the website.
> >
> >
> > Am 12. September 2017 19:00:21 MESZ schrieb Seb Kiureghian <
> > sebouhdk@gmail.com>:
> > >The pPMC would like to update the website.
> >
> > This wording is worrying to me. It sounds like a decision was made out of
> > sight of the public project community, that is out of sight of dev@
> >
> > The only way to grow your community and make it possible for outsiders is
> > to have  conversations leading up to decisions like these here on dev@.
> > Maybe I missed those, happy for any pointers.
> >
> >
> > Isabel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Dominic Divakaruni
> 206.475.9200 Cell
>

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