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From Sebastian Samaruga <>
Subject Re: About your post on "Semenatic Web"issues
Date Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:24:19 GMT

I've been discussing this issues: the transition from a 'document oriented'
web into a 'data and services oriented web' for a while in the semantic-web
related w3c mailing lists. In short it seems we had have to deal with
building 'applications' over *documents* for a long time and it seems it
does not need to be the the same within a data oriented web (at least for

However, applications does not build by themselves. XML and others promised
interoperability since a long time before RDF and, although I belive RDF /
SW could, there will be no interoperability (as that of RESTFul services)
until there is no agreement in 'semiotic' semantics of representations,
resources and protocols.

The document I'm attaching here is an extended version of yesterday's
abstract but it only states a few concepts regarding integration (alignment
and merge of datasources. I'm not a seasoned SW nor integration developer).

Best Regards,
On Aug 21, 2017 12:36 PM, "Michel Kern" <> wrote:

> Hello Sebastian
> I share your concerns, even though (or precisely because) I'm not a
> 'referent' in Application and Data storage interoperability, I'm a seasoned
> SW engineer (1). My feedback on your article, is that the use case
> illustrates  the challenges and needs for a web of interoperables solutions
> (maybe you could mention SKOS among the Semweb languages)
> My interest for interoperability started in 1997, at this time there was
> CORBA and Microsoft COM, then regarding RDBMS, there was ODBC/JDBC. There
> was also all the vendors buzz like SAP pretending to teach esperanto to the
> babel towers of legacy apps (but in fact replacing backoffice apps by
> theirs)
> Some time XML and its modelling 'applications' (XML Schema and XMI) gave
> me some hopes, but still no concrete sign of 'user driven apps' built by a
> dynamic process of looking for and assembling 'autodescribed components'
> (SOAP and WSDL was then a kind of CORBA successor)
> Before the Semantic Web,
> I had never really 'bought' the idea that SQL based Data Storage was
> considered as a 'Silver Bullet', ORM solutions seemed to bring even more
> entropy.
> But with the advent of Graph Databases (e.g. Neo4J) and this brilliant
> solution (Apache MetaModel) for Data Storage interoperability, I am at last
> more comfortable and comfortable with the idea that the solutions are
> available for designing interoperable solutions in an elegant way at last.
>     I am most fluent in the DataViz and ETL dimensions of Semantic
> networks. I authored a mindmapping app in 2004: Thinkgraph, now I'm
> prototyping a solution to provide interoperability between 'knowledge
> visualization' (e.g. TheBrain, XMind), Data Storage and Curating platforms
> (e.g. Pinterest, Evernote, Youtube, etc..).
> I chose .Net/C# as my development workshop thats why I started a port of
> Apache MetaModel in C#.
> Best Regards
>     Michel Kern
> 1. Dassault Systèmes 1991-2000, Nokia 2001-2010

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