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From Kasper Sørensen <>
Subject Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Aug 2013 ([ppmc])
Date Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:25:14 GMT
Good point about Jackcess Dave. Actually I had in my mind that it was
MIT licensed, but it seems you're right! So we gotta figure something
out. Is it even allowed for Apache projects to release with such a
dependency, I think not?

An option could be to NOT include the MetaModel-Access module in the
Apache codebase at all. Instead let us at Human Inference release it
as a third party module. We already do this with the SAS module [1]
and will start doing it with the dBase module [2] , for the same
reason. This is obviously not an attempt from our side to exclude
these modules from the apache space, but just because we don't control
that licensed code and we would like to retain (in some form) the wide
connectivity of MetaModel, also after moving to Apache.

[1] Also LGPL; SassyReader -
[2] Also LGPL; Recently made a fork of that module from the old
MetaModel project, but compatible with the new Apache namespace at (does not have a website
or something like that yet).

2013/8/4 Dave Fisher <>:
> There should be some discussion about IP clearance in advance of a first release.
> Has the podling discussed how to properly handle GPL dependencies like Jackcess? These
will need to be optional in an Apache Release.
> Regards,
> Dave
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Henry Saputra wrote:
>> Any volunteer to prepare report this month?
>> Arvind's recommendation is great but we will try baby steps to prepare the
>> complete report.
>> We just need to say that all  INFRA work is done and we are start ramping
>> up on development.
>> Also website and wiki is up and running so people can start visiting to get
>> more info.
>> - Henry
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Marvin <> wrote:
>>> Dear podling,
>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>>> Incubator PMC.
>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
>>> quarterly
>>> board report.
>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 August 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST.
>>> The report
>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
>>> Incubator PMC
>>> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
>>> allow
>>> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Aug 7th).
>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC,
>>> and
>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>>> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>>> Thanks,
>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>> Submitting your Report
>>> ----------------------
>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>> * Your project name
>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
>>> project
>>>   or necessarily of its field
>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>>   graduation.
>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>>> aware of
>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this
>>> page is
>>>      created from a template.
>>> Mentors
>>> -------
>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
>>> PMC.
>>> Incubator PMC

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