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From Jie Yu <>
Subject Re: [Design Doc] Improve Storage Support in Mesos using Resources Provider
Date Fri, 24 Mar 2017 00:51:54 GMT
Yes, the idea is to make this general in the future. In fact, the whole
resource provider design keeps that in mind.

We could add a general "CONVERT" operation in the future with a free formed
key value pairs (as well as the source resources) as the parameters. And
it's up to the corresponding resource provider to interpret that.

- Jie

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Sargun Dhillon <> wrote:

> Is the intent to make this generic beyond disks? I can see the
> concepts apply beyond volumes, and blocks. Perhaps a generic
> Create{generation} -- where larger generation numbers descend from
> smaller ones?
> I can also see this valuable in networking. My use case is ENIs in
> AWS. I would like to have a ResourceProvider that can manipulate ENIs
> based on the invocation of the scheduler. Instead of "CREATE_BLOCK"
> it'd be CREATE_INTERFACE, with some given options about the ENI,
> giving us a raw interface. Subsequently, we would want to do a
> CREATE_IPVLAN, as a subinterface that we can assign an actual IP to.
> The IPVLAN interface is a descendant of the raw interface, just as
> volumes are descendants of block devices.
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Jie Yu <> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently, Mesos supports both local persistent volumes as well as
> external
> > persistent volumes. However, both of them are not ideal.
> >
> > Local persistent volumes do not support offering physical or logical
> block
> > devices directly. Also, frameworks do not have choices to select
> > filesystems for their local persistent volumes. There are also some
> > usability problem with the local persistent volumes. Mesos does support
> > multiple local disks. However, it’s a big burden for operators to
> configure
> > each agent properly to be able to leverage this feature.
> >
> > External persistent volumes support in Mesos currently bypasses the
> > resource management part. In other words, using an external persistent
> > volume does not go through the usual offer cycle. Mesos doesn’t track
> > resources associated with the external volumes. This makes quota control,
> > reservation, fair sharing almost impossible to implement. Also, the
> current
> > interface Mesos uses to interact with volume providers is the Docker
> Volume
> > Driver interface (DVDI), which is very specific to operations on a
> > particular agent.
> >
> > The main problem I see currently is that we don’t have a coherent story
> for
> > storage. Yes, we have some primitives in Mesos that can support some
> > stateful services, but this is far from ideal. Some of them are just the
> > stop gap solution (e.g., the external volume support). This design tries
> to
> > tell a coherent story for supporting storage in Mesos.
> >
> >
> 5BB5OY9a6M7LZcby5RSqBwo2PZzpVLuxYXh4/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Please feel free to reply this thread or comment on the doc if you have
> any
> > comments or suggestions! Thanks!
> >
> > - Jie

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