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From "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website
Date Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:58:46 GMT
Hi Dave,

I personally think it's a requirement and also specified here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#websites


The primary branding for any project or product name must be in the form
of "Apache Foo". This ensures that the project or product is associated
with the ASF and the project in the minds of our users. The first and most
prominent reference to a project or product on each page must use the
"Apache Foo" form of its name. Other references may use either "Apache
Foo" or "Foo" as appropriate for the subject matter.


This falls into the "first and most prominent reference" part. Regardless
of if they are requirements or not I won't get in to, but from my seat
as someone who cares about Mesos, but also about the ASF, I think we need
to make sure there is a prominent first mention of *Apache* Mesos, and
I read things (as an English language speaker) left to right.

Cheers,
Chris


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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Lester <davelester@berkeley.edu>
Reply-To: "mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org" <mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:37 PM
To: "mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org" <mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: "dave@ischool.berkeley.edu" <dave@ischool.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website

>Hey Chris,
>
>I didn't see this as a requirement. In general, I think it would be fairly
>confusing to display the Apache feather logo in the upper left,
>particularly because the conventions of web design today typically
>position
>a project's logo in that corner.
>
>Dave
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> I love it!!
>>
>> One small nit is that in the upper left somewhere, displayed prominently
>> there should be an Apache Software Foundation logo too.
>>
>> Looking styley!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Lester <dave@ischool.berkeley.edu>
>> Reply-To: "mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org"
>> <mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org>, "dave@ischool.berkeley.edu"
>> <dave@ischool.berkeley.edu>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:17 PM
>> To: "mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org" <mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website
>>
>> >Hi All,
>> >
>> >I've expressed an interest in helping with a website refresh, and
>>wanted
>> >to
>> >break this down via email to get some feedback.
>> >
>> >*PROCESS*
>> >It'd be great to embrace an iterative process for the website; the
>>site is
>> >never 'done' and I think there are a number of changes we could make
>>both
>> >small and large. Shipping smaller changes quickly (especially since
>> >graduating + more eyeballs) is best, IMHO.
>> >
>> >I've created a new Jira issue where you can track this and leave
>>comments:
>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-528
>> >
>> >*CHANGES*
>> >There are a number of changes that I'd like to see to the site, in
>>order
>> >from "must have" to "nice to have":
>> > * Add required links to Mesos website:
>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-66
>> > * Update the website to use new Mesos logo.
>> > * Some visual changes to update the overall design of the site, which
>>is
>> >a
>> >bit dated...
>> > * Making it easier for people to get started with Mesos by simplifying
>> >and
>> >updating the site navigation to include 'getting started' and 'getting
>> >involved.' Probably moving research and FAQ to the documentation.
>> > * Making it easy to find out who uses Mesos and why by adding a list
>>of
>> >active users to the homepage with logos. Testimonials could also be a
>>way
>> >for people understand who is using the project and why.
>> > * Revamping of documentation (see
>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-511), a few issues are
>>there
>> >and I think there is a lot of work that can be done there.
>> > * Migrate website to a template system of some kind.
>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-495
>> >
>> >*DRAFT Site*
>> >With some help from Chris A, I've created a mockup of a Mesos website
>> >refresh that I've shared with a few of you already:
>> >http://twitter.github.io/mesos-mockup/index.html
>> >
>> >Note several things: some of the links don't work; this was just a flat
>> >site that was created to illustrate some larger ideas. Feedback, both
>>at a
>> >high and granular level is appreciated.
>> >
>> >*TIMELINE*
>> >I'd like to see some initial changes made in the next two weeks.
>> >
>> >Best,
>> >Dave
>>
>>


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