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From Martijn Verburg <martijnverb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [scala-debate] Emotional Support Group for Typesafe Maven Users
Date Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:31:36 GMT
Play *very* firmly wants you to use the activator framework to control your
build and deploy - I'd seriously not try and fight against it.  It's one of
the reasons we dropped the Play framework for a community project we're
working on, that and the constant breaking of APIs etc :-).

Cheers,
Martijn

On 4 December 2014 at 12:58, Jeff Jensen <jeffjensen@upstairstechnology.com>
wrote:

> > If you want to publish to Maven Central I recommend
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/
> getting-started-apache-maven-video
>
> In case it helps, I've helped a few deploy to Central and recommend this
> (and the other pages on the "Producers" menu); makes it very easy:
> http://central.sonatype.org/pages/ossrh-guide.html
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Eric Kolotyluk <eric.kolotyluk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ha ha ha. Very good :-)
> >
> > I have published to Maven Central, so I know how daunting this can be at
> > first.
> >
> > If you want to publish to Maven Central I recommend
> > https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/
> > getting-started-apache-maven-video
> >
> > Cheers, Eric
> >
> > On 12/3/2014 11:27 AM, Jon Pretty wrote:
> >
> >> I can offer you this:
> >>
> >> http://play.textadventures.co.uk/Play.aspx?id=zv-wer8keey6rnhk4am25q
> >>
> >> It's a create-your-own-adventure about my experience of trying to
> publish
> >> a library to Maven Central. It's a couple of years old now, so the
> >> landscape might have improved a little in patches.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 December 2014 at 19:11, Eric Kolotyluk <eric.kolotyluk@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:eric.kolotyluk@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Does anyone know of a good emotional support group for people
> >>     trying to use Maven with Typesafe projects such as Akka and Play?
> >>
> >>     I was thinking maybe there could a buddy/sponsor system, such as
> >>     used in AA and other self help groups. Maybe there might be group
> >>     sessions where people can talk about their trauma, especially by
> >>     being constantly invalidated by comments such as "you should use
> >>     the simple build tool SBT, cause, well you know, it's simple and
> >>     easy to use."
> >>
> >>     Seriously though, is there a community of people who are
> >>     successfully using Maven with Akka an Play projects? I would love
> >>     to meet you.
> >>
> >>     I can see why people who have tried Maven naturally think "oh,
> >>     its' too complicated, anyone can write a simple build tool that
> >>     does what Maven does." Clearly they do not appreciate what Maven
> >>     is or what it does. SBT and Gradle are two great examples of
> >>     projects that attempted to do something more simple, but in the
> >>     end, really don't measure up.
> >>
> >>     I personally think the Scala community would be been better served
> >>     if more investment was made in developing better Scala build tools
> >>     within the Maven framework. More and better plugins for Scala,
> >>     Akka, Play, etc.  Better use of
> >>
> >>     http://books.sonatype.com/mcookbook/reference/sect-
> >> scala-script-inline.html
> >>     http://books.sonatype.com/mcookbook/reference/ch03s03.html
> >>
> >>     I don't know if there is a Scala template for writing Maven
> >>     plugins (or mojos), but there should be.
> >>
> >>     The more I use SBT, the less I like it. It is not what I consider
> >>     a serious build tool for build engineers, it is a toy or
> >>     playground for Scala hackers who thrive on the abstruse. Don't get
> >>     me wrong, I love Scala, but creating a build tool around .scala
> >>     files just invites the use of chicken tracks and obscure overly
> >>     concise cleverness that leads to one WTF experience after another.
> >>     /It is actually possible to write Scala code that you can reason
> >>     about,/ but it just as easy to write Scala code that resembles
> >>     APL, and reasoning about build engineering was clearly not a
> >>     priority with the designers of SBT.
> >>
> >>     The Scala-IDE was a really great approach because it leveraged off
> >>     of an existing IDE infrastructure such as Eclipse, rather than
> >>     trying to write an IDE from scratch the way SBT does. I wish the
> >>     Scala/Typesafe community had taken the same approach with
> build-tools.
> >>
> >>     - Eric
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Pretty | @propensive
> >>
> >
> >
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