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From Eric Kolotyluk <>
Subject Re: [scala-debate] Emotional Support Group for Typesafe Maven Users
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:53:43 GMT
Ha ha ha. Very good :-)

I have published to Maven Central, so I know how daunting this can be at 

If you want to publish to Maven Central I recommend

Cheers, Eric

On 12/3/2014 11:27 AM, Jon Pretty wrote:
> I can offer you this:
> It's a create-your-own-adventure about my experience of trying to 
> publish a library to Maven Central. It's a couple of years old now, so 
> the landscape might have improved a little in patches.
> Jon
> On 3 December 2014 at 19:11, Eric Kolotyluk < 
> <>> wrote:
>     Does anyone know of a good emotional support group for people
>     trying to use Maven with Typesafe projects such as Akka and Play?
>     I was thinking maybe there could a buddy/sponsor system, such as
>     used in AA and other self help groups. Maybe there might be group
>     sessions where people can talk about their trauma, especially by
>     being constantly invalidated by comments such as "you should use
>     the simple build tool SBT, cause, well you know, it's simple and
>     easy to use."
>     Seriously though, is there a community of people who are
>     successfully using Maven with Akka an Play projects? I would love
>     to meet you.
>     I can see why people who have tried Maven naturally think "oh,
>     its' too complicated, anyone can write a simple build tool that
>     does what Maven does." Clearly they do not appreciate what Maven
>     is or what it does. SBT and Gradle are two great examples of
>     projects that attempted to do something more simple, but in the
>     end, really don't measure up.
>     I personally think the Scala community would be been better served
>     if more investment was made in developing better Scala build tools
>     within the Maven framework. More and better plugins for Scala,
>     Akka, Play, etc.  Better use of
>     I don't know if there is a Scala template for writing Maven
>     plugins (or mojos), but there should be.
>     The more I use SBT, the less I like it. It is not what I consider
>     a serious build tool for build engineers, it is a toy or
>     playground for Scala hackers who thrive on the abstruse. Don't get
>     me wrong, I love Scala, but creating a build tool around .scala
>     files just invites the use of chicken tracks and obscure overly
>     concise cleverness that leads to one WTF experience after another.
>     /It is actually possible to write Scala code that you can reason
>     about,/ but it just as easy to write Scala code that resembles
>     APL, and reasoning about build engineering was clearly not a
>     priority with the designers of SBT.
>     The Scala-IDE was a really great approach because it leveraged off
>     of an existing IDE infrastructure such as Eclipse, rather than
>     trying to write an IDE from scratch the way SBT does. I wish the
>     Scala/Typesafe community had taken the same approach with build-tools.
>     - Eric
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