Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D2B710512 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52265 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jan 2014 07:21:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 52071 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jan 2014 07:20:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Users List" Reply-To: "Maven Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 52059 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jan 2014 07:20:47 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:20:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.223.171] (HELO mail-ie0-f171.google.com) (209.85.223.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:20:43 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id to1so633391ieb.30 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:20:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nbibwxridtEkjtDPmhefUr+/OnX9KKI36IoglpzouqM=; b=KEWERQdYzwIMp/zRtgnIZoLOfdzWR7VPAzlG/2pr3sRhiCzrpwjOC+EWOh0RSlEnJg MDVDep+7t/QWKbKN7nA06bp4UFLVSLyu/YtvGgiXvMstJIfv83JJR3oIW15gifPZCQAE Op9+OgHPy+0Fq/N4Ki5aj3Dl6QAIU4EG9wvlSw+h56IrB81ZwNW6YvtSJLmCDShLewWI QUhq8TLI6+0USuFN7XZ9DeSo8FmHWixvrmRgZ+24HjQZEcvVte5ZzdPhG3m+wU5skJ/P jecEuJ3we2rBhymXpa3oc1rYtTwhhLg58RlsvizjO8w5qg0jm773y4dLW4oefrDwYzwx jzcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nbibwxridtEkjtDPmhefUr+/OnX9KKI36IoglpzouqM=; b=B9fn8O9HMeAOxTnIcv8QodQ+b8nPyP+5M6KGY9llIDxJpyeDEAPcil2PAJuULUPEGo AS+sNlcdilktM68DXD8bR46OOY4PckzhuIINI9u09QyDtCglEBosZWpOfIYhExb9WQ3p gInp/Ky8RehaZc68ZpL3xBIlxUZkHMVwOc0SVpfalhTnU85MzRBv/8TSWo4HBlkBn5OK pxr7zvmtGeIk7Hp8lF3NKAYO0gMwzGexHBuVxagoAE6OIOCWAVzY5mkk23mXi2w438Ui 4RGjy9gXnIyo/f1aRaJhRBH0/PDKQ+Rnq/Xoc5fdUmmoXT1odPVH/24krBcvMXiWdVB2 NsYA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl0mamWFBI6uIhIuaxgCWVgv0brfpM0fyr7u/38migjoSL3nH6Q+9q4ayeNYsmr62R9dGE2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.250.132 with SMTP id mo4mr6446864icb.34.1389338422036; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:20:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: kristian.rosenvold@zenior.no Received: by 10.50.89.229 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 23:20:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <23db4a359ac8b220e15f373269ebc967.squirrel@www.mosabuam.com> <03B56DD5-E957-438E-A30E-439C2785032D@apache.org> <781949f830750555c03856e45275c78b.squirrel@www.mosabuam.com> <20140109151225.GC14330@IUPUI.Edu> <20140109155136.GE14330@IUPUI.Edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:20:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eKPRtolYZwWC_6V7vIbD79bSo6s Message-ID: Subject: Re: New logo? From: Kristian Rosenvold To: Maven Users List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3011df931e625a04ef988f96 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3011df931e625a04ef988f96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in > > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the > > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. > > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven > > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the > relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? > > -- > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. > --20cf3011df931e625a04ef988f96--