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From Tim Pizey <t...@paneris.org>
Subject Re: New logo?
Date Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:18:51 GMT
I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc

The moose and beaver are also laden.

Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long?
Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project.


cheers
Timp

On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bmathus@batmat.net> wrote:
> Oups, forgot users list.
>
> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
> friendly enough, /me think.
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>>
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Roy.Lyons@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> > upwards and to the right.  Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling.  If it looks good, perhaps
>> it
>> > can be a #15...
>> >
>> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> > >
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> > >context:
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> > ><stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> > >>just
>> > >> things that I have sketched...
>> > >>
>> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> > >>
>> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
>> I
>> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> > >>from
>> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>> ask
>> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
if
>> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> > >>type
>> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> > >>raven,
>> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>> > >>we
>> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> > >>
>> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>> as
>> > >>I
>> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> > >>hey
>> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> > >>to
>> > >> a run-off of my creations)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using
a
>> raven
>> > >>>> in their logo
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> > >>>>><manfred@simpligility.com>
>> > >>>>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven
but otherwise
>> this
>> > >>>>> looks
>> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone
would recognize
>> it
>> > >>>>>as
>> > >>>>> a
>> > >>>>> >> raven ..
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ.  doesn¹t look like a raven
to me at all.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough²
part
>> seemed
>> > >>>>>to
>> > >>>>> look
>> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot
with a weird
>> > >>>>> swirly
>> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. 
 :-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I
am exposed
>> to
>> > >>>>> these
>> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have
to make
>> > >>>>>it a
>> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> manfred
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
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>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Sent from my phone
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net
> Sauvez un arbre,
> Mangez un castor !



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Tim Pizey
http://pizey.net/~timp

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