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From Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is there a Maven plugin for the Java debugger (jdb)?
Date Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:57:53 GMT
Why would you want to walk from New York to San Francisco when you can fly?

Some people are gluttons for punishment, some people like text-mode (works
better over plain ssh without resorting to eg X11 forwarding)

Finally debugging when the debugger and debugged process are on the same
machine rather than separated by a 150ms latency link is a lot nicer... And
sadly cli tools are the only way to handle that without adding significant
lag.

Having said all that, debuggers are the tool of last resort, if you need to
use them you start worrying about heisenbugs etc.

A good log file beats the pants off a debugger 99 times out of 100... Ask
anyone who tried to figure out why the conference call talker indicators
were invalid or did work on any real time system and they will swear by a
good log file with mapped diagnostic context support.

Me... I worked on real time conferencing systems, so a good log file is
what I favour, you can't single step debug a real time teleconference ;-)
the skills you learn trying figure out techniques to debug such systems are
very valuable

On Friday, 11 October 2013, Russell Gold wrote:

> I'm sorry; I don't understand. Why would you want to use a text editor,
> rather than an IDE,  to debug a java program?
>
> On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Andrew Pennebaker <apennebaker@42six.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Why would anyone want to do this? So we don't have to debug Maven
> projects
> > with Eclipse/IntelliJ, but the text editor of our choice. This is best
> > accomplished by Maven tasks which interact with the command line jdb
> tool.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Russell Gold <russ@gold-family.us>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you want to do that? I suspect we are not getting at your actual
> >> requirement.
> >>
> >> On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Pennebaker <apennebaker@42six.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, various Java IDEs can debug Java code, including Java code
> organized
> >>> in Maven projects. What I'm interested in is debugging Java code in a
> >> Maven
> >>> project with an arbitrary text editor, not necessarily Eclipse or
> >> Intellij,
> >>> for example Emacs, or even Notepad, by invoking Maven tasks that point
> to
> >>> Maven plugins that interact with jdb.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Sankaran, Nambi <nsankaran@ebay.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It very is easy to debug maven from eclipse, I have documented how I
> >> debug
> >>>> maven-jetty-plugin using eclipse
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://nambisankaran.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/running-jetty-server-with-maven/
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Andrew Pennebaker [mailto:apennebaker@42six.com]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:04 AM
> >>>> To: Maven Users List
> >>>> Subject: Re: Is there a Maven plugin for the Java debugger (jdb)?
> >>>>
> >>>> I could also use an IDE for package management, but I'd rather use
> plain
> >>>> Maven and an arbitrary text editor instead.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Russell Gold <russ@gold-family.us>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The simplest way to do this is actually to run it in your IDE
> directly.
> >>>>> IntellijIDEA community edition can import your maven project and
thus
> >>>>> get all of the dependencies. Then you just run the program in the
> >>>>> debugger. I presume Eclipse can do something similar.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Andrew Pennebaker
> >>>>> <apennebaker@42six.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes. I'm looking for a task like `mvn jdb:debug <Class>`
that starts
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>> jdb
> >>>>>> session on <Class>.main().
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can run jdb on individual Java code outside of a Maven structure,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>> I'm
> >>>>>> not sure how to inform jdb of Java code in a Maven project,
Maven's
> >>>>>> CLASSPATH handling, etc. etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Benson Margulies <
> >>>>> bimargulies@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What would that mean? Do you want to execute the program
in the
> >>>>> debugger?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Andrew Pennebaker
> >>>>>>> <apennebaker@42six.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'd like to run jdb over some of my classes in a Maven
project. Is
>


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