Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A97C10FCC for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 18:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39427 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2013 18:31:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 39369 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2013 18:31:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Users List" Reply-To: "Maven Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 39358 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2013 18:31:28 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:31:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bmathus@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.50] (HELO mail-ee0-f50.google.com) (74.125.83.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:31:22 +0000 Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id d51so480178eek.37 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lw008Tn2pCV5h/EL46dQUz7D4k4PBTsRPkU+Xg8GnTQ=; b=E0QCjJNJ8i7UXqUhCc8kLplxJGfbTNDnTQkeDxRmjt8TFFABnWPfD82UQyFzPC/oR6 lo8sClhmqNsmiP9dB73DhNiXgZVphmYm+7pDpOqratNep2l3JbcMvMW/y/msBzlyBkWr aH1zaTnCKRV4WjkFIpkRTDnscBndOkAKe5J2rB+/vMP5GSj6FQyAtOD+XqwpLM6m5NZK ET8+gSofQY28oQfLgDYGtys7DKgLfNcWFz0pemcUer4VvJlJUguYx9YUJCd6t/O9l8Pb Hoy12N1vUzhOt5PHkpA46hLOMLjsvpyLnQDvvRU+4DKIiImNEXrwAxD9MBucCKcrSGnc /aXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.174.194 with SMTP id x42mr6829815eel.87.1375468262119; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: bmathus@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.137.198 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.137.198 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <10749063.jC47tyPmt6@herve-desktop> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 20:31:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MO9H7xvAiJTDOrTJjvXxGRjXcys Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...) From: Baptiste MATHUS To: Maven Users List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621ede2a0b4d04e2fb2991 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b621ede2a0b4d04e2fb2991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 2 ao=C3=BBt 2013 20:27, "Baptiste MATHUS" a =C3=A9crit : > > > Le 2 ao=C3=BBt 2013 17:48, "Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY" a= =C3=A9crit : > > > > > Le vendredi 2 ao=C3=BBt 2013 10:08:42 Curtis Rueden a =C3=A9crit : > > > True, and it is good to warn about this. However, ultimately I think Git is > > > a better choice (than SVN) because it often makes code review much easier. > > I didn't use gerrit nor have seen anybody using it. But I hear about it more > > and more often as an argument why it makes git better than svn (even if I read > > that gerrit is a fork of rietveld, which is the same for subversion: bu= t > > nobody even talks about it, don't know why). > > Is this pure theory? a dream? a reality for a minority of experts, talking > > about it loudly but no mere mortal can use it? > > (intentional provocational tone to motivate people who know to show me the > > direction to the light :) ) > > Just my 2 cents : been using gerrit professionally on a daily basis for 8 months now. So there's actually real people using it, I can testify ;). > > We're a team of ~10 guys. > > (For French savvy people I've given a short talk about it at the Toulouse jug. The session was recorded ans is hosted on parleys). > > > > > > If a new feature is properly developed on a topic branch with commits > > > squashed, rewritten and organized as needed, the history can be laid out in > > > a very easy-to-understand manner: new features and bugfixes done in > > > properly isolated commits, unit tests added immediately thereafter, etc. > > yes, with git, you can: with git, so much things can be done. > > But once again, I didn't see anybody do it, because it's a lot of work. > > You're right. I try to do it as often as I can. But perfection takes a bit too long to commit/rework and sometimes it's ridiculous ;). Oops not sure I was clear. I was answering to 'lot of work's part. Not 'anybody...' because I actually do it and know many people doing it very often. I generally do it almost each time before pushing. > > > And it requires to be a git black belt. > > It helps to practice, sure. Btw, Gerrit makes it worse. It almost forces you to use advances features to make it really useful. > That's why I'd say putting a whole team both beginning with git and gerrit would be a mistake. > > > For the moment, just making a rebase before merging a branch seems hard for us > > mere mortals. > > > > > If > > > a commit is too large or conflates many different changes, Git provides the > > > tools to split up that work for rereview. > > > > > > Again, thanks for writing this. > > +1 > > I like it too > > > > Regards, > > > > Herv=C3=A9 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org > > --047d7b621ede2a0b4d04e2fb2991--