Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2133710F39 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 01:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82550 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2013 01:23:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-maven-users-archive@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 82472 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2013 01:23:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Users List" Reply-To: "Maven Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 82464 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2013 01:23:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:23:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [24.37.79.202] (HELO smtp.artifact-software.com) (24.37.79.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:23:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.artifact-software.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8EEFEC09A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 21:23:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at artifact-software.com Received: from smtp.artifact-software.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.artifact-software.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bui-DyqkJf0K for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 21:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.3.170] (unknown [192.168.3.170]) by smtp.artifact-software.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC956A7B57 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 21:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51FB09E9.1020602@artifact-software.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:22:49 -0400 From: Ron Wheeler Reply-To: rwheeler@artifact-software.com Organization: Artifact Software User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md) References: <51F19A47.1040309@commonjava.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 01/08/2013 5:55 PM, Jonathan Sharp wrote: > I think John C raises an interesting case here, where the voting process > can fall down. > > A large code dump like that can hurt the quality of documentation and > support (in addition to team morale). It depends on how good the code and documentation is! If the PMC can not deal with the amount of code being proposed, they need to increase the PMC. In the meantime, they can always defer the acceptance. I would love to have the problem of my team producing too much tested code and documentation for me to read!!! Ron > > My $.02 > > Jon > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, John Casey wrote: > >> It's about whether you expect to do a ton of work outside the community >> here, outside the commit logs and the review, in order to avoid the >> discussion and potential for veto. >> >> Working in this way opens the possibility for changing the rules for who >> gets to contribute, especially when code diverges for long periods then >> gets reconciled with a massive rebase. >> >> ASF is supposed to be about more than code. We're supposed to be working >> together on this project. I feel like the above hamstrings that whole >> process. >> >> -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org