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From "Markus Karg" <k...@quipsy.de>
Subject AW: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)
Date Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:30:51 GMT
As a Maven user I think that everybody who is working on a project should behave the same.
Hence, I would say, PMC members should rather certainly demonstrate how to live the community
rules.

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Von: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juli 2013 15:16
An: Maven Users List; Maven Developers List
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to
behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

There are two schools of thought amongst the current members of this projects PMC.

Without wanting to deliberately tip my hand and reveal where my opinion is, we would like
to solicit the opinions if the community that we serve.

Please give us your thoughts.

The topic is essentially:

Do you want the members of the Maven PMC to be social leaders of the Maven community, who's
actions demonstrate the best community behaviour?

The alternative is that members of the Maven PMC are here purely to complete the legal requirements
that an Apache TLP has delegated to PMCs

This is not black and white... The answer can be grey... And everyone is human so can make
mistakes...

So community, what are you expecting?

- Stephen Connolly

On Thursday, 25 July 2013, wrote:

> Author: jdcasey
> Date: Wed Jul 24 23:21:58 2013
> New Revision: 1506778
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1506778
> Log:
> Adding section on PMC standards of community commitment
>
> Modified:
>     maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md
>
> Modified: maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project
> -roles.md?rev=1506778&r1=1506777&r2=1506778&view=diff
>
> ======================================================================
> ========
> --- maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md (original)
> +++ maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md Wed Jul 24
> 23:21:58 2013
> @@ -176,6 +176,29 @@ The Project Management Committee has the
>  * Voting on release artifacts.
>  * <!-- TODO: get the rest of these -->
>
> +#### Standards for Community Commitment
> +
> +In the spirit of supporting the health of our community, Project 
> +Management Committee members refrain from actions that subvert the 
> +functioning of the committee itself.
> +
> +First, Project Management Committee members should not maintain
> long-running
> +forks of Maven code outside of the project itself. Making significant 
> +changes to Maven code outside of the project displays a lack of 
> +investment in the community. Additionally, attempting to re-integrate 
> +a large number of code changes in bulk overwhelms the ability of 
> +volunteers in the community to review (and potentially veto) the 
> +changes. This effectively thwarts the policing function of the PMC.
> +
> +Second, Project Management Committee members should not divert work 
> +on redesigning, reimplementing, or improving Maven code to 
> +alternative projects outside of this community for the purposes of 
> +reintroducing them as replacement for existing Maven code. While 
> +there is a danger here of falling into a Not Invented Here mentality, 
> +new
> projects
> +created by Maven PMC members strictly to replace Maven code should 
> +not be allowed.
> +
>  ### [Project Management Chair](
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-chair)
>
>  For various legal reasons, there are certain things that the Apache
>
>
>

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