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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:36:58 -0500
From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
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On 15/11/2010 1:22 PM, Yanko, Curtis wrote:
> I can't help but feel you are confusing the discussion on CD with CI
> which to me, is mostly a natural progression and maturity of a good
> build system.
Yes. I am not sure which one seemed to evoke the most silliness.
> The other good news is, you don't have to use it foolishly if you choose
> not too! ;-)
>

I gather that this must be true since they would have died a natural 
death in the hands of some of the people showing up here.

Ron

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:28 AM
>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven
>>
>> On 15/11/2010 8:18 AM, Yanko, Curtis wrote:
>>> You're happy about NOT using CI????
>>>
>> Yes. It seems to be a tool that is prone to being used foolishly.
>>
>> We are a small shop maintaining and developing a large
>> (70+POM files) portal application with portlets, web
>> services, servlets and batch process and do not seem to  have
>> the types of issues that the people, trying to use CI, bring
>> to the table.
>>
>> They seem to get into all kinds of troubles with SNAPSHOTs,
>> build repeatability, source control and architectures that
>> are too interdependent.
>> I can not see how they ever test anything with a continually
>> unstable CI build.
>>
>> Of course, I know that I am only seeing the worst cases in
>> the forum so my mind is not completely closed on the subject.
>> I can hardly wait until we have a "Best Practice" section on
>> the Maven site so that I can see how a CI should be
>> integrated into a Maven environment and perhaps that will
>> make me unhappy that I an not using CI.
>>
>>
>> Ron
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:05 PM
>>>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven
>>>>
>>>> I would add the following bits of reality.
>>>> We don't use CI and a lot of the discussion makes me very
>> happy about
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>> -Curt
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