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From Frederic Camblor <>
Subject Re: maven is a swamp
Date Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:03:10 GMT
I won't argue about closing tag, it's obvious a "}" is cleaner than a

But I insist about code completion that is :
- I'm in <build> section, I don't remember how my tag for target directory
is named, I hit ctrl+space (under eclipse *cough*) and it provide me with
all available tags in the <build> section ...
- ... plus it provides, too, a documentation for all tags !

I don't know if with YAML, we can use an xml schema to describe the current
document structure.
If so, it will have all the benefits.
If not, it will lose something important to my point of view.


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Kenneth McDonald <> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Frederic Camblor wrote:
> > Hi Kenneth !
> >
> > Drawback of using a Python/YAML like solution is code completion.
> >
> But the payoff is you don't need code completion! You just put in a )/}/]
> or so, and your code is completed! Any yes, any competent text editor can
> check for braces mismatches etc.
> I recognize the concern, I just don't see it as valid. I've been
> programming in Python for twenty years now. I won't say it's always the
> case, but in a large number of cases, the terseness you gain in your code
> more than offsets things like code completion, static analysis, etc.
> And yes, I specifically intend this to apply to XML. I can't see how moving
> to a YAML model would be anything but a win for maven.
> Just to let you know I'm not firmly entrenched in one camp, the static
> analysis that Scala supplies seems to me to overcome the inherit "benefits"
> of dynamic analysis.
> Ken
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