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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: maven is a swamp
Date Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:42:21 GMT
Step 1: even fairly straightforward POMs that need more than the
default conventions rapidly get verbose and hard to read due to XML.

Step 2: Hiding behind that, though, there are, I claim, areas of
genuine confusion.

For the simple cases, it's fine to say 'convention over
configuration'. Lots of us can agree on the conventions for turning a
heap of Java files into a Jar.

However, for better or worse, many of us have to do things with builds
for which there is no self-evident convention. The maven plugins for
the job pick something, and then reality shows up and kicks us in the
head. XML amplifies this, but there is an underlying problem there.

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