Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D71200D31 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:24:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id B440E160BE7; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 12:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 03E38160BD5 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:24:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 25460 invoked by uid 500); 4 Nov 2017 12:24:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Developers List" Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 25448 invoked by uid 99); 4 Nov 2017 12:24:45 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:24:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 176661A8695 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 12:24:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id agvOwOoaCclo for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 12:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f182.google.com (mail-wr0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 3CA725FACE for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 12:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z55so4650249wrz.1 for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RYuIWutG6t6a0UWmVKJFVTpf2Zzygtg1kC1qSWU/NIY=; b=JLa22/mmBx3Nd8ymPOKEMLTK+QxgeOY0zYk32olAlIHDPIAO2aT3IIaH6Q35wftKJH iV1BrmvUcSoM2kBfpgXd7PLSJKbFhaSRfhEyy1HsyFaJmOdB21mIF38j+3iHMVTOXVdb 2fFFdBoQo/FNucu9g6myVwaN60EePnOat238C86+5eE+d6LBvlo2zgyqIpLriD5CHaHd VocLR6Llpg2h018QjGLjtm6eLbjZxKJEDiNCNxBSiwz6jixnCBvT1L2DL0ynBE40/0uP XmI2XQcdGdPSAAKxulUmQSRx6YywGK0uzTi6+4YJ8adUv8ypvgm9Bw6UZT/yxBpNsl+P juNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RYuIWutG6t6a0UWmVKJFVTpf2Zzygtg1kC1qSWU/NIY=; b=qKKLd4cCOmTaUctHaPgGxyELuXFpydOsO36bY2BnKKGw8Hods99sy/cfkQkq0vabQk q0ypWDGidYj0YJ7MQdBQzwwZ+rUXGWHYcDVk4CreH8RQjEFCreNOWYMPugwsYdzPMBZb Fih6Di53rLvjUFY30oKObg0RWBhYXYOa14mTEW7qAtmstna80iMnzo1xfuzBNrTeBUZp W7wmKuVhFs0GNWKcmEQU58rVGe1AsAsm5QZ/tZTlOw+pyAoNHnVuSNwSzWrEvNHHfLO5 bUFYONqtbaMf7EW87qPfXEyeKZFj8NzC7GlOGdJMbYh80TS/ra5H6PzH+nnpliDZnggv +3Aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUsdXDdFlAOSzA0fJ3Usdc4lP8tte42Fhr0dEqgyjqi21nBzLZL fxU/JSByD/SNcLQVODWjFrMIJ8nvtiFR6G0OuujiFA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RpuN/4YEbxdyC7E7o8S+p0p0f0XhOzvP+hL7EhQ4CwgQXFX0csQiHMEUVuSSGzPR9POUH2Gr+cz/11TF9bxCw= X-Received: by 10.223.141.148 with SMTP id o20mr7475258wrb.35.1509798281271; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Stephen Connolly Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:24:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0 To: Maven Developers List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f4fae3cdd88055d274e35" archived-at: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:24:52 -0000 --f403045f4fae3cdd88055d274e35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:20, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote: > The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our next= steps. > > I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list: > > We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only > > We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope. > > 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion > > The 4.0.0 scope should probably be: > > Required: > * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining binary > api compatibility for plugins) > * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (may > need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour) > * specify the extension spec > * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive > dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals that > declare intent) use case: shade plugin > * better CI integration hooks > * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion > > Optional: > * (damn I forgot, maybe Robert remembers) > * incremental build * concurrent safe local repo cache > -- > Sent from my phone > --=20 Sent from my phone --f403045f4fae3cdd88055d274e35--