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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9?= BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr>
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 alpha/beta's on Central
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:22:44 +0100
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archived-at: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:24:56 -0000

now I see your reasoning

3.3.n were expected to be final quality: they were not, they were dropped (=
vote=20
result was -1, result sent to trash)

3.5.0-alpha-n is expected to be alpha quality: from tests, we have the alph=
a=20
quality (IMHO even more quality, but not final quality), then the vote will=
 be=20
positive *for an alpha* and we'll publish the result

Regards,

Herv=E9

Le dimanche 26 f=E9vrier 2017, 11:44:48 CET Robert Scholte a =E9crit :
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 04:58:24 +0100, Manfred Moser
>=20
> <manfred@simpligility.com> wrote:
> > Imho it should go to Central just like any other release. All components
> > and everything. The version clearly tells thats its alpha and this
> > allows for clean testing, embedding and so on.
> >=20
> > We have done it in the past and I dont see any reason for changing this.
>=20
> Well, Karl Heinz's link only shows those which were deployed, not the ones
> which weren't.
> Also, we've skipped a lot of versions in the 3.3.x, because we had a
> different approach: just make that 3.3.n and simply burn it if there are
> issues. We could have called this release 3.5.0, we see some issues and
> decide if that should block the release.
>=20
> The jansi temp files might be a blocker for me if we are going to publish
> this version.
>=20
> Robert
>=20
> > Manfred
> >=20
> > Stephen Connolly wrote on 2017-02-25 16:05:
> >> So if I am embedding Maven, how do I embed Maven 3.5.0-alpha-1?
> >>=20
> >> (I know it should not be a big issue as we should have the release soon
> >> anyway, but more from the principal POV)
> >>=20
> >> Consider the Jenkins "evil" job type plugin that has dependencies on
> >> some
> >> of the artifacts that are in the staging repository? If there is a need
> >> to
> >> update the adapter libs for that to work with alpha-1, how would that =
be
> >> possible if we don't publish the artifacts at least somewhere?
> >> On Sat 25 Feb 2017 at 23:23, Robert Scholte <rfscholte@apache.org>
> >>=20
> >> wrote:
> >>> It depends on what the task of Central is. If it for *dependencies*,
> >>> there's no need to publish pre-final versions; don't think we should
> >>> motive plugins to depend on alphas.
> >>>=20
> >>> AFAIK the common way to get a new version of Maven is via
> >>> http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and not via Central.
> >>>=20
> >>> This is also about hygiene. Not every artifact belongs in Central
> >>> (we've
> >>> seen continuous deployment-like releases), and pre-releases could
> >>> belong
> >>> to that group.
> >>>=20
> >>> Funny, just like Jigsaw there's a clear difference between libraries
> >>> and
> >>> applications; I don't mind treating them differently, especially in
> >>> these
> >>> unofficial release stages.
> >>>=20
> >>> Robert
> >>>=20
> >>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:55:55 +0100, Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >>>=20
> >>> <khmarbaise@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >=20
> >>> > based on the started discussion about either to bring 3.5.0-alpha-1
> >>>=20
> >>> to
> >>>=20
> >>> > Central or not I would suggest to discuss in a separate thread and
> >>> > prevent using the VOTE's threads for that (as Stephen already
> >>>=20
> >>> mentioned).
> >>>=20
> >>> > Using Central:
> >>> >   o Everybody can use it and make tests on it.
> >>> >=20
> >>> > Using an other repository:
> >>> >   o Which one?
> >>> >=20
> >>> > Using only dist area? Or something different?
> >>> >=20
> >>> > WDY?
> >>>=20
> >>> > Based on earlier releases which had been in Central with alpha's:
> >>> http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cgav%7C1%7Cg%3A%22org.apache.maven%2=
2%2
> >>> 0AND%20a%3A%22apache-maven%22>>>=20
> >>> > Kind regards
> >>> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >>> >=20
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> >=20
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