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From Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org>
Subject Re: I think we are ready for 3.5.0-alpha-1
Date Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:24:10 GMT
Am 2017-02-14 um 21:52 schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On 14/02/17 21:47, Michael Osipov wrote:
>> Am 2017-02-14 um 21:23 schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> so this looks like the problem is fixed..and maven-clean-plugin is not
>>> the culprit ...
>>
>> This isn't related. Surefire722 fails with 3.0.0, but works with MCLEAN
>> 2.6.1. I can provide log files if you want.
>
> Would be nice to provide a log...so I can take a look into it...

Here you go: 
http://home.apache.org/~michaelo/maven/surefire/MCLEAN-3.0.0-bug/maven-surefire-MCLEAN.tar.gz

Two successful runs, one fails with MNG-6169 and MCLEAN 3.0.0. Target 
directory of surefire-integration-tests is included.

>>> On 14/02/17 15:31, Michael Osipov wrote:
>>>> This test passes flawlessly.
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you will run the build again, this test should not fail. At least
>>>>> I hope
>>>>> so, because it's ok on my side
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/maven-surefire/org.apache.maven.surefire$surefire-integration-tests/1673/testReport/junit/org.apache.maven.surefire.its/ConsoleOutputIT/largerSoutThanMemory/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will check Jenkins build result tomorrow morning.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Michael Osipov-2 [via Maven] <
>>>>> ml-node+s40175n5898560h0@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 2017-02-13 um 21:36 schrieb Tibor Digana:
>>>>>>> I am working with Michael on FreeBSD issues.
>>>>>>> I will try to fix one IT today and I will analyse the logs with
>>>>>>> next two
>>>>>>> ITs.
>>>>>>> Did we change something regarding SITE in Maven 3.5.0-SNAPSHOT ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to tackle the constant failure of
>>>>>> Surefire772NoSurefireReportsIT on FreeBSD. Maven from master works,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> fails from MNG-6169. The root cause is the ugprade of the Clean
>>>>>> Plugin
>>>>>> to 3.0.0. 2.6.1 works flawlessly, 3.0.1-SNAPSHOT fails too. I
>>>>>> consider
>>>>>> the Clean Plugin broken is some way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Karl Heinz, do you think yo could assist in finding the bug?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will continue with the other failures on FreeBSD, Maven from master
>>>>>> and Surefire from master.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Tibor Digana-2 [via Maven] <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898560&i=0>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The HEAD in Surefire has a Jira fix 1322 which is using the same IT
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> failed on FreeBSD. So I simply included FreeBSD fix in the test
>>>>>>>> Surefire141PluggableProvidersIT.
>>>>>>>> I hope you will be happy with that.
>>>>>>>> The only last IT which fails and I did not have time to
>>>>>>>> investigate is
>>>>>>>> Surefire772NoSurefireReportsIT. This is from your log you sent me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> testOptionalSurefireReportGeneration(org.apache.maven.surefire.its.jiras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surefire772NoSurefireReportsIT)
>>>>>>>> Time elapsed: 0 sec  <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError: Expecting failsafe report file
>>>>>>>>     at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:88)
>>>>>>>>     at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:41)
>>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.surefire.its.jiras.Surefire772NoSurefireReportsIT.
>>>>>>>> testOptionalSurefireReportGeneration(Surefire772NoSurefireReportsIT.java:75)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Michael Osipov <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898532&i=0>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am currently running a patched version of Maven with the
>>>>>>>>> offensive
>>>>>>>>> commit reverted against Surefire master on FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE.
>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> wether this is the cause in an hour or so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve logged the change in precedence as
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>> jira/browse/MNG-6172 since this has the potential to break CI
>>>>>>>>> builds
>>>>>>>>> which relied on the previous last-one-wins behaviour
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 13 February 2017 at 06:54, Tibor Digana wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly this is the problem - forkMode and reuseForks in one
>>>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>>>>>> I will open Jira and push a fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Stuart McCulloch [via Maven] <
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898532&i=1> (mailto:
>>>>>> ml-node+
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898532&i=2>)>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tweaked ForkedLauncher from maven-verifier to dump out the
>>>>>>>>> forked
>>>>>>>>>>>> command to log.txt and at least one of the failing ITs has a
>>>>>>>>> duplicated
>>>>>>>>>>>> system property on the command-line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn -e --batch-mode -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/maven-
>>>>>>>>>>>> surefire/surefire-integration-tests/../surefire-setup-
>>>>>>>>>>>> integration-tests/target/it-repo org.apache.maven.plugins:
>>>>>>>>> maven-clean-plugin:clean
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Dsurefire.version=2.19.2-SNAPSHOT -DtestNgVersion=5.7
>>>>>>>>>>>> -DtestNgClassifier=jdk15 -DforkMode=perthread
>>>>>>>>>>>> -DreuseForks=false
>>>>>>>>>>>> -DreuseForks=true -DthreadCount=1 -DtestProperty=testValue_${
>>>>>>>>>>>> surefire.threadNumber}_${surefire.forkNumber}
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>> surefire:maven-dump-pid-plugin:dump-pid test
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -DreuseForks=false -DreuseForks=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at SurefireLauncher.java
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/blob/master/
>>>>>>>>>>>> surefire-integration-tests/src/test/java/org/apache/
>>>>>>>>>>>> maven/surefire/its/fixture/SurefireLauncher.java
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. the reuseForks method adds a new system property argument
>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s called: -DreuseForks=<setting>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. the forkPerThread method calls forkMode( "perthread"
>>>>>>>> ).reuseForks(
>>>>>>>>>>>> false )
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. the forkOncePerThread calls forkPerThread().reuseForks(
>>>>>>>>>>>> true )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So any test using SurefireLauncher’s “forkOncePerThread” method
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>> up with two “reuseForks” system property options on the
>>>>>>>> command-line
>>>>>>>>> - and
>>>>>>>>>>>> will therefore be affected by the change in system property
>>>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>>> precedence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This explains why ForkModeIT fails for me locally with master,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> passes
>>>>>>>>>>>> with 3.3.9 - with current master the -DreuseForks=false option
>>>>>>>> wins,
>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas with 3.3.9 the -DreuseForks=true options wins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change SurefireLauncher.forkOncePerThread to avoid
>>>>>>>> duplicating
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> system property, ie:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> return forkMode( "perthread" ).reuseForks( true );
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> then ForkModeIT passes with both current master and previous
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Stuart
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 13 February 2017 at 01:32, Stuart McCulloch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically I got those results the wrong way round when
>>>>>>>>> cutting+pasting
>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify, when testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/aaa -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/zzz
>>>>>>>>> validate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with previous Maven releases the last option wins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/zzz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas with current master the first option wins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 13 February 2017 at 00:19, Stuart McCulloch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using the following command on a small test project:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/aaa -Dmaven.repo.local=/tmp/zzz
>>>>>>>>> validate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and checking whether the “aaa” or “zzz” directory is created
>>>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>>>>>>> these results for previous Maven releases:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.0.11 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2.1 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.5 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.1.1 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.5 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.9 aaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas current master gives a different result:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master zzz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which confirms the precedence of CLI arguments is currently
>>>>>>>>> reversed
>>>>>>>>>>>> on master compared to previous releases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Stuart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 12 February 2017 at 23:53, Stuart McCulloch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git bisect is pointing to the following commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/
>>>>>>>>>>>> ca4303031357a7decaee8de770b71fb2c2fedd28
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I revert this change then the wrong PID issue disappears
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ForkModeIT passes again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect that reversing the whole array of system property
>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions, while solving MNG-6078, is breaking precedence of
>>>>>>>>> arguments on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the CLI (which then affects these tests)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 12 February 2017 at 20:26, Tibor Digana wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So this is a local build status of surefire running on the
>>>>>>>>> top of
>>>>>>>>>>>> certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven Version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven 3.3.9 OK on my side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven 3.5.0-SNAPSHOT failed. Wrong PIDs, other tests
>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> freebsd and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not on Win7, so I asked Michael for logs which I do not
>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I am going to investigate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:05 PM, stephenconnolly [via
>>>>>>>> Maven]
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898461&i=0>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:
>>>>>>>>> [hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>> email]
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898461&i=1>)>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you pop on HipChat with infra?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may need them to grab the files from the agent for
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>> modify the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenkinsfile temporarily to archive the bits you need)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun 12 Feb 2017 at 19:55, Tibor Digana <[hidden
>>>>>>>> email]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5898384&i=0>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is build process for surefire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Maven/job/maven-master-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-status-test-surefire-linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Jenkins file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This particular build fails with test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surefire141PluggableProvidersIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is only one and different from your local build
>>>>>>>>> result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked Stephen to enable Workspace, because I need to
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> files from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target folders for analysis to understand what is
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen told me that I should trigger rebuild. So I
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> launched
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Parameters" but the build failed not running
>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>> build,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Workspace appears now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I force trigger the build?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Maven/job/maven-master-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-status-test-surefire-linux/11/console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is another build process, old one actually, and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> successful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The difference is because I think race condition when
>>>>>>>> JVM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> error once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to std/err and other log in the first build with
>>>>>>>> Jenkins
>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can, I think, be only one more assertion
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>>> in IT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see Workspace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Christian Schulte
>>>>>>>> [via
>>>>>>>>> Maven]
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> type=node&node=5898384&i=1>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Stephen: Are there any Jenkins jobs left running
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>> ITs with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current Maven master? Surefire has it's own git
>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some Jenkins job for this as well? It's important to
>>>>>>>>> run all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> those ITs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (plugins from subversion and the ones with theire
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> repository) with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we are going to release as 3.5.0 before
>>>>>>>> releasing
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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