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[73.189.250.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ms5sm7270663pbb.59.2015.03.05.08.00.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:00:32 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 From: Jason van Zyl In-Reply-To: <1673933.f0eUxvySGN@herve-desktop> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 08:00:31 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <078CA83A-43CE-4108-9835-61F9EE665775@takari.io> <54F61365.9050406@gmx.de> <77836FE3-56E2-4675-9D19-39AE3640560C@takari.io> <1673933.f0eUxvySGN@herve-desktop> To: Maven Developers List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Did you try it again, worked for me locally now with the last change. I just kicked off a 3 hour testing process for the new 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT so = I'll be more confident after that works. I'd really like to bump up to Java 1.7 as well before the release. I = think it's an appropriate time given the bump to 3.3.0 and the imminent = EOL of Java 1.7. I don't think I know anyone left running 1.6. On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY = wrote: > I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a = failure=20 > like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during = reporting) >=20 > Can others try and confirm, please? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Herv=E9 >=20 > Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a =E9crit : >> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. = Today >> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation. >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise = wrote: >>> Hi Jason, >>>=20 >>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET... >>>=20 >>> I'm available .... >>>=20 >>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday = didn't >>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>>=20 >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY = wrote: >>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time) >>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Herv=E9 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a =E9crit : >>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are >>>>>> interested. >>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll = try to >>>>>> get >>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we = get >>>>>> around >>>>>> to meeting. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise = =20 > wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jason, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's >>>>>>> possible to >>>>>>> take a look into it... >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in... >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Karl Heinz >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here = locally. >>>>>>>> But I >>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing >>>>>>>> documentation. >>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I = might >>>>>>>> alter >>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about = other >>>>>>>> bits >>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go = through >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There = are a >>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to = be >>>>>>>> looked at as well. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to = get in >>>>>>>> small fixes.>> >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl = wrote: >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to = get in. >>>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it = seems to >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right = parameters >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second = commit with >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl : >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the = release? >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to = merge >>>>>>>>>>> anyway so >>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old = Windows >>>>>>>>>>>> versions >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from = the >>>>>>>>>>>> bat >>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release? >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows = 98/ME >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-). >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these = .bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions = that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there = is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have = dropped >>>>>>>>>>>>>> win >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in = the >>>>>>>>>>>>> System >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro). >>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release = notes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle = JDK 1.7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP = SP3 [2]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> = http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com. >>>>>>>>>>> ibm. >>>>>>>>>>> = java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement >>>>>>>>>>> s.ht >>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl = >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a = try... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the = patch >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], = but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent = directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config = file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, = use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to = $MAVEN_OPTS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> = https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dmaven.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people = determine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: = +1.972.963.2872 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: = +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud H=E9ritier < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for = a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and = few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have = no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it = is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is = still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document = specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project = needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the = documentation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and = figure it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If = there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows, >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows = users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in = logs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in = the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us = not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've = seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to = make a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is = introduced.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud H=E9ritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com = Twitter/Skype : >>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from = concrete >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction = on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you = develop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The = more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for = Evolving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: = dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: = dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: = dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: = dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> = ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: = dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: = dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> = ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> = -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Jason >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing = still. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -- Chinese Proverb >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>>=20 >>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>>=20 >>>> Jason >>>>=20 >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jason van Zyl >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>=20 >>>> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between = his work >>>> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his >>>> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He = simply >>>> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and >>>> leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. To = himself, >>>> he always appears to be doing both.>>=20 >>>> -- Fran=E7ois-Ren=E9 de Chateaubriand >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >>>=20 >>> Mit freundlichem Gru=DF >>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Jason >>=20 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> http://twitter.com/takari_io >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it = will >> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will = come >> and sit softly on your shoulder ... >>=20 >> -- Thoreau >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >=20 Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Takari and Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org