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Subject: Re: move maven core to java 7?
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:14:07 +0100
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Le vendredi 6 mars 2015 08:33:27 Anders Hammar a =E9crit :
> What I'd like to stress here is that we're talking about Maven core, =
not
> our plugins. We've had a separate discussion/thread for the plugins a=
nd for
> those we've decided to go with a Java 6 requirement.
> As plugins were mentioned in this thread as well I want to make sure =
there
> is no misunderstanding.
yes, we're only talking about core: plugins require another discussion
and befoire discussing plugins, we need to really finish the core discu=
ssion :)

Regards,

Herv=E9

>=20
> /Anders (mobile)
>=20
> Den 6 mar 2015 00:37 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <jason@takari.io>:
> > Ok, the consensus is to move forward to Java7. I updated the POM an=
d we're
> > in no rush so give it a whirl and we can think about releasing next=
 week
> > if
> > the world doesn't blow up.
> >=20
> > On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Mirko Friedenhagen <mfriedenhagen@gmail=
.com>
> >=20
> > wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > >=20
> > > I would go for JDK7 as well, in April it will be EOLed anyway. I =
do
> > > not understand why someone who is forced to use JDK6 or let alone=
 JDK5
> > > is allowed (or has) to use the newest versions of build tools BTW=
. IMO
> > > it is stressful enough to support two JDKs (on different at least=
 3
> > > OSes).
> > > Regards Mirko
> > > --
> > > http://illegalstateexception.blogspot.com/
> > > https://github.com/mfriedenhagen/ (http://osrc.dfm.io/mfriedenhag=
en)
> > > https://bitbucket.org/mfriedenhagen/
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Chris Graham <chrisgwarp@gmail.c=
om>
> >=20
> > wrote:
> > >> My preference is to always go for the lowest common denoninator,=
 as it
> > >> gives the largest possible spread.
> > >>=20
> > >> My 'grumbling' as Stephen put it [ :-) ], is more that I'd like =
people
> >=20
> > to
> >=20
> > >> have an awareness that there are other platforms out there.
> > >>=20
> > >> For example, the current IBM WAS 8.x stack defaults to Java 6, a=
nd Java
> >=20
> > 7
> >=20
> > >> is an extra optional install. I'm not sure if there is an IBM Ja=
va 8
> > >> available (or being used in a product - I'm not sure, I've not l=
ooked,
> >=20
> > and
> >=20
> > >> now, I no long can!).
> > >>=20
> > >> Once the core moves the plugins will follow.
> > >>=20
> > >> I don't necessarilly agree with the premise that those stuck on =
older
> > >> versions of Java will not want to use the newer core/plugins,
> >=20
> > especially as
> >=20
> > >> backports of fixes are exceptionally uncommon.
> > >>=20
> > >> But if you feel the pressing need to update, feel free.
> > >>=20
> > >>=20
> > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@=
gmx.de>
> > >>=20
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>=20
> > >>> On 3/5/15 2:16 PM, Igor Fedorenko wrote:
> > >>>> This is chicken-and-egg situation. We won't use java 7 feature=
s
> > >>>> unless
> > >>>> the code targets java 7.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> Try-with-resources and multi-exception catch are the too featu=
res I'd
> > >>>> like to start using throughout the code. Although not "critica=
l" per
> >=20
> > se,
> >=20
> > >>>> I think they make writing correct maintainable code noticeably=

> > >>>> easier.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> Improvements to standard library, nio in particular, is anothe=
r big
> > >>>> reason for me. For example, Files#walkFileTree is significantl=
y
> > >>>> faster
> > >>>> than comparable File-based implementation on large source tree=
s.
> >=20
> > Knowing
> >=20
> > >>>> the core is on java 7 will allow us use that in plexus-utils f=
or
> >=20
> > example.
> >=20
> > >>> Hm..plexus-utils is used in many plugins which would cause them=
 to
> >=20
> > upgrade
> >=20
> > >>> to Java 7 as well ?
> > >>>=20
> > >>>> Besides, java 7 is EOL'ed by Oracle next month. Yes, many
> >=20
> > organizations
> >=20
> > >>>> still use java 6 (and java 5), but the same organizations are =
not
> >=20
> > likely
> >=20
> > >>>> to move to use latest maven features any time soon either.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Igor
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> On 2015-03-05 7:59, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > >>>>> I don't know the numbers, but I think JDK6 is still used a lo=
t by
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> community.
> > >>>>> Current code builds fine with JDK6.
> > >>>>> Which JDK7 specific features do you want to use, which are no=
t
> >=20
> > possible
> >=20
> > >>>>> with the current codebase?
> > >>>>> Without any critical codechanges I'd go for -1.
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> Robert
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> Op Thu, 05 Mar 2015 13:19:11 +0100 schreef Igor Fedorenko
> > >>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com>:
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> With maven core version change to 3.3.0 on master, any object=
ions I
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>>> change compile source/target to java 7?
> > >>>>>>=20
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>> Igor
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Kind regards
> > >>> Karl Heinz Marbaise
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >=20
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> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > Jason
> >=20
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason van Zyl
> > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >=20
> > There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you=
're
> > talking about.
> >=20
> >  -- John von Neumann
> >=20
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