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From Dan Tran <dant...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Maven 3.2.6
Date Tue, 03 Mar 2015 18:36:48 GMT
FYI, i think Robert configure wagon to use 2.9-SNAPSHOT to test out ssh
hanging issue. We can either release wagon and downgrade wagon back to 2.8

Thanks

-D

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io> wrote:

> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> > I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> interested.
> >> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
> get
> >> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> around
> >> to meeting.
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>>
> >>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> possible to
> >>> take a look into it...
> >>>
> >>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> Karl Heinz
> >>>
> >>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> But I
> >>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
> >>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
> >>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>
> >>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
> bits
> >>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> and
> >>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
> >>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
in.
> So
> >>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
to
> work
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> and
> >>>>>> no
> >>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
with
> the
> >>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the
release?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches
to merge
> >>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old
Windows
> versions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support
from the bat
> >>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows
98/ME
> anyway
> >>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar
:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly
<
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
<
> anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff
easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and
Windows versions that are
> not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of
JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run
on.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say
we have dropped win
> >>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support
in the
> System
> >>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the
release notes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6,
but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum
of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> >>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> >>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van
Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas
Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box
and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really
a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor
Fedorenko <
> igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff
to mvn shell script in [1], but the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First,
find nearest parent directory
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This
parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958).
Second, if .mvn/java.config file
> is
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true
multimodule project root, use
> its
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters,
i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about
Windows scripting to make similar
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat
batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert
Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the
problem that Igor ran into that limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing
this would help people determine
> what
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve
the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
<javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste.
300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA
          Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle
WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory
Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and
Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl
[mailto:jason@takari.io
> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February
25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers
List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at
11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at
the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like
the toolchain integration and few
> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project
and won't veto anything as I have no
> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand
why
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without
a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help
Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if
someone would help, but it is still a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require
this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows
users. Say the project needs
> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases
no one reads the documentation
> they
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they
go read something and figure it
> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made
it work for some people. If there
> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows
who can add the same
> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I
don't think it should stop the
> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can
benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use
Windows regularly, don't know
> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none
of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement.
For me it's a about
> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter
if there are any Windows users
> that
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago
the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part
because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was
the issue. The issue was us not
> being
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying
logging framework. I've seen JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25,
2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015,
at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the
list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to
make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0
here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier
AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and
Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions
by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine
the correct abstraction on
> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing
a running system is doomed to
> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is
a resuable design, so you develop
> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed
to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your
framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson &
Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest
of the lame excuses!
> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but
rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People
Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>
> >>>>  -- Shakespeare
> >>>
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> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >> -- Chinese Proverb
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> >>
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>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
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