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From Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
Subject Re: Maven 3.2.6
Date Thu, 05 Mar 2015 18:48:02 GMT
yes, the fix did it: I just closed MNG-5779
(the build failure was during install phase, since checkstyle:check happens 
there)

thank you

Hervé

Le jeudi 5 mars 2015 08:00:31 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> Did you try it again, worked for me locally now with the last change.
> 
> I just kicked off a 3 hour testing process for the new 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT so
> I'll be more confident after that works.
> 
> I'd really like to bump up to Java 1.7 as well before the release. I think
> it's an appropriate time given the bump to 3.3.0 and the imminent EOL of
> Java 1.7. I don't think I know anyone left running 1.6.
> On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> wrote:
> > I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a
> > failure like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during
> > reporting)
> > 
> > Can others try and confirm, please?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow.
> >> Today
> >> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
> >> 
> >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>> 
> >>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> >>> 
> >>> I'm available ....
> >>> 
> >>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> 
wrote:
> >>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hervé
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>>>> interested.
> >>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>>>> around
> >>>>>> to meeting.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>>>> possible to
> >>>>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>>>> But I
> >>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>>>> alter
> >>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> bits
> >>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>>>> few
> >>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> >>>>>>>>> in.
> >>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>>>> <andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/co
> >>>>>>>>>>> m.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequireme
> >>>>>>>>>>> nt
> >>>>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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> >> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
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