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From Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de>
Subject Re: Maven 3.2.6
Date Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:02:45 GMT
Hi Jason,

at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...

I'm available ....


On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz
what's your schedule looking like?
>
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hervé
>>
>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>>> to meeting.
>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>
>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But
I
>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
bits
>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
in. So
>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
to work
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
and
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
with the
>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the
release?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to
merge
>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old
Windows versions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support
from the bat
>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows
98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar
:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly
<
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
<anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier
around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows
versions that are not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of
JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run
on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say
we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support
in the System
>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the
release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6,
but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of
Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van
Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas
Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box
and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really
a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor
Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to
mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First,
find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This
parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958).
Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true
multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters,
i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about
Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat
batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert
Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem
that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing
this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve
the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
<javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste.
300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA
          Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic
Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory
Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and
Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
<javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February
25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers
List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31
PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at
the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like
the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project
and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand
why
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without
a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help
Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if
someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require
this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows
users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases
no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they
go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it
work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows
who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I
don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can
benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use
Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none
of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement.
For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter
if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago
the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part
because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was
the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying
logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015
at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at
4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the
list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make
clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here.
Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier
AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache
Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions
by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine
the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a
running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is
a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed
to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your
framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson &
Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest
of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but
rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People
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>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>
>>>>>   -- Shakespeare
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>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>
> Jason
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> Jason van Zyl
> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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